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#448322 - 12/31/17 07:23 PM [Beginners Forum] A question about Tempo
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How far off the tempo suggested for a style is advisable to deviate?

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#448326 - 12/31/17 07:47 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: A question about Tempo [Re: Lesley55]
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Depends on what makes up your audio. You'll normally see straight MIDI styles have a wide tempo range because the audio is rendered when needed. RealStyles have a narrow tempo range because they use RealTracks which are audio tracks. Busier audio can not stretch or shrink as much as simple audio. Some people say they can tell if ANY time or pitch shifting is performed on audio. Generally once you hear artifacts, you need to adjust. Typical is +10% or -15%.
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#448331 - 12/31/17 08:19 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: A question about Tempo [Re: Lesley55]
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Thanks Jim. What are artifacts?

I'm looking for a style for Scarborough Fair. I want the tempo to be about 80 or 85. It is 3/4 time. A large majority of 3/4 time RealStyles are swing and don't seem appropriate at all. I have the UltraPack and "Xtra Styles PAK 4: Folk & Beyond 1".

I guess I'll go with Bouzouki Slow Waltz. But it doesn't sound right at 85. Maybe 95.






Edited by Lesley55 (12/31/17 08:21 PM)

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#448333 - 12/31/17 09:41 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: A question about Tempo [Re: Lesley55]
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Audio artifacts are some form of noticeable distortion of the sound quality, in this case usually because of stretching or changing too far from the original recorded tempo.
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#448346 - 01/01/18 01:17 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: A question about Tempo [Re: Lesley55]
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Hey Lesley,

There are actually recommended tempo ranges for each Style and RT in their respective picker dialogues (see screenshots).


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#448364 - 01/01/18 05:48 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: A question about Tempo [Re: Lesley55]
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Lesley55
You do not have to stick to the waltz/swing styles.

Experiment with using regular 4/4 styles with a 3/4 time signature.
Sometimes it works, sometimes not so much.
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#448370 - 01/01/18 06:56 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: A question about Tempo [Re: Lesley55]
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MIDI should be fine, sound quality wise, at any tempo.

RealTracks have their recommended tempo ranges, but then there are options for halftime or double time when choosing them. Same for RealDrums. This gives you a tremendous potential tempo range overall.
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#448539 - 01/01/18 10:50 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: A question about Tempo [Re: Matt Finley]
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Thanks for all these replies. Very helpful!

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#448550 - 01/02/18 12:27 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: A question about Tempo [Re: Lesley55]
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It may seem all wrong but also look at 12/8 sometimes you get a nice feel there.

On second thoughts I am wrong. However I found several 3/4 ev 8 waltzes that seemed a fine fit albeit slow at 85bpm.

Tony


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User Tip - Slowing Down and Looping Audio in Band-in-a-Box®

Forum user DeaconBlues09 created a video tutorial to help answer a fellow forum user's question:
Using the Audio Chord Wizard to tempo map, slow down, and learn the notes of an audio track - video link http://www.pgmusic.com/?vid=R09Lf3bHjhQ

Forum thread: http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=467504

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