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#446576 - 12/21/17 12:39 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: No more 'One and Done' Vocal recordings for me [Re: Deryk - PG Music]
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Originally Posted By: Deryk - PG Music
Despite the rejection, at least it seems like they had some significant feedback. Much better than the blunt dismissal I think all musicians have received at some point or another. Keep truckin' on smile


when you're paying the high subscription cost for TAXI.... you do expect to get some feedback on the song tucked into that price.

They will often tell you that a certain listing is Yes/No... so you don't really expect feedback on those.
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#446577 - 12/21/17 12:42 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: No more 'One and Done' Vocal recordings for me [Re: Charlie Fogle]
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Originally Posted By: Charlie Fogle

I shared hoping others will recall my story and put the effort into their entire song and not be slack like I was

Fair warning to everyone we can't ride to success solely on the professional results we can now obtain with BIAB/RB generated tracks



Indeed.... those tracks are excellent starting places BUT.... they need some effort on your part to get them sounding "broadcast ready".
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#446599 - 12/21/17 02:30 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: No more 'One and Done' Vocal recordings for me [Re: Charlie Fogle]
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I remember when you posted that song, Charlie. Several of us left complimentary remarks on the Soundcloud line.
With respect to broadcast television, though, it is kind of graphic for mass appeal. It's a small bullseye, but that's what success stories are made of.
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#446781 - 12/22/17 04:31 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: No more 'One and Done' Vocal recordings for me [Re: Charlie Fogle]
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Check out Songtradr. Free and a great business model. I think their approach is unique.
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#446782 - 12/22/17 04:36 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: No more 'One and Done' Vocal recordings for me [Re: edshaw]
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Originally Posted By: edshaw
I remember when you posted that song, Charlie. Several of us left complimentary remarks on the Soundcloud line.
With respect to broadcast television, though, it is kind of graphic for mass appeal. It's a small bullseye, but that's what success stories are made of.



It is truly a small bullseye. I've quoted my late brother many times his encouragement to me that I only have to get it right once. I hope I don't run out of bullets.
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#446783 - 12/22/17 04:38 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: No more 'One and Done' Vocal recordings for me [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
Check out Songtradr. Free and a great business model. I think their approach is unique.


Thanks. I've heard of Songtradr and will look it over. My biggest problem is likely motivation and ambition at this point in my life and the high quality instrumentation that can so easily be achieved with BIAB just accentuates those qualities.
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#446786 - 12/22/17 05:06 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: No more 'One and Done' Vocal recordings for me [Re: Charlie Fogle]
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Originally Posted By: Charlie Fogle

It is truly a small bullseye. I've quoted my late brother many times his encouragement to me that I only have to get it right once. I hope I don't run out of bullets.


I think you have plenty of ammo, there, Charlie. But now, we are getting into the field of marketing, a specialty of its own. I pretty well assure that if "My Sad Story" was performed tomorrow at the Oprey, the phones would be lit up Mon. AM. Remember the theme of "Lucille" ? Another one, "Third Rate Romance," has a message of somehow feeling used. Those are two producers who threaded that needle and went on to reap the benefits.
I spent many years in sales, but marketing has never been my strong point. Still, I think I'm OK in poiinting you towards tweaking the theme and trying again. I mean, really, you've got the hard part done, the music track.


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#448461 - 01/01/18 01:15 PM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: No more 'One and Done' Vocal recordings for me [Re: Charlie Fogle]
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#448620 - 01/02/18 10:17 AM [Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production] Re: No more 'One and Done' Vocal recordings for me [Re: Charlie Fogle]
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Hi Janet, thanks for commenting and the encouragement. I'm not really lamenting the rejection so much as the particular rejection this time may be due to my lax attention to quality control....

My future plans are to pay a bit more attention to detail. You are absolutely correct, this rejection is an opportunity to be more serious and do better the next time....

My post was me trying to encourage others to do the same - to do as I suggest rather than emulate my past practices.
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Band-in-a-Box® 2018 For Windows Build 509 Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows customers can download this free patch update at http://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#509

Summary of changes:
Added: The drop station has MP3 and WMAL (lossless WMA) quadrants added.
Fixed: "Drag Audio as MP3" setting in the Plugin settings did not work when dragging a file to Windows Explorer.
Fixed: "Pause Play until MIDI or key received" setting did not work if using WAS audio drivers.
Fixed: Band-in-a-Box Server was unable to communicate with BB2018.
Fixed: Choosing a drum kit file in the MIDI/Audio Driver Setup dialog would fail with error "Unable to install patch/drum map for...".
Fixed: Disabling "Include 2 bar lead-in" setting in the Render Song to Audio File dialog would cause videos to be out of sync.
Fixed: It was not possible to type the # sharp character into the chord sheet if using a French keyboard.
Fixed: Some Amplitube TGS files and styles were missing in certain installations.
Fixed: Song would stop playing at bar 8 after rendering to an audio file.
Fixed: The Practice Window songs would not load with error "This directory does not exist...".
Fixed: The Tip of the Day dialog was not displaying any tips.
Fixed: The Tuner, MIDI Monitor, and Drum Kit window were always displaying in English instead of the user's language.

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Songwriting Feedback - "Why This Forum Matters"

Our Forum is a great resource when you're wanting to discuss Band-in-a-Box (or other PG Music Inc. programs), but it's so much more!

In addition to the different sections we have for our products (Band-in-a-Box, RealBand, PowerTracks, and Other PG Music Programs), there are also places on our Forum to share your songs, YouTube videos, ask for tech help for problems not related to our software, "off topic" discussions, and more!

Forum user David Snyder shared his thoughts on Why This Forum Matters in his recent Songwriting post, which has some great feedback, including:

It occurred to me this morning that it is the group effort that counts. That is, one kind word about another member's song, one piece of encouragement or generous suggestion, might cause that person to write the greatest song ever written, which might then go on to have a massive impact on some stranger's life, cause someone to fall in love, or turn their life around, and literally change the course of history. Because songs do that.

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