Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
You need to be logged in to post on the forum
Topic Options
Index
#448701 - 01/02/18 10:18 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters...[Solved]
1mansaxband Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 11/26/16
Posts: 43
I have a Scarlett 2i2 1st gen, have MME set at 488,Scarlett is set in and out, lost asio buffer size control from my task bar, it plays correctly and then stutters near end of songs. This is playing on jukebox, after stutter next song loads and plays fine. I am using Avast and downloaded update, same. I was running 2016 for 18 months with no issues. I have a gig in 5 days !! help. I have removed and reinstalled scarlett, asio4all,focusrite really lost.

Top
#448702 - 01/02/18 10:26 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
1mansaxband Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 11/26/16
Posts: 43
Set to MME after calling tech support....I can't remember but I must have had this on ASIO previously..

Top
#448703 - 01/02/18 10:41 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
Noel96 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 13218
Loc: Australia
Firstly....

In Avast! exclude the \bb and \Realband directories.

To do this right-click on the Avast! icon in the taskbar and select "Open user interface" (#1 on image below).

Now follow 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 to add \bb and \Realband.

Let us know how you go. This may well solve your problem.

Regards,
Noel


Attachments
Avast - exclusions.jpg


_________________________
LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS


Top
#448704 - 01/02/18 10:47 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
Noel96 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 13218
Loc: Australia
Secondly, if the above doesn't help...

Under "Options | Preferences | Realtracks", deselect the option "Fast generation of Realtracks".

Does this help?


Attachments
generation-speed up.JPG


_________________________
LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS


Top
#448707 - 01/02/18 11:07 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: Noel96]
1mansaxband Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 11/26/16
Posts: 43
Originally Posted By: Noel96
Firstly....

In Avast! exclude the \bb and \Realband directories.

To do this right-click on the Avast! icon in the taskbar and select "Open user interface" (#1 on image below).

Now follow 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 to add \bb and \Realband.

Let us know how you go. This may well solve your problem.

Regards,
Noel
Did this, saw your next post as I went to disable Fast Generation it went into stutter....

Top
#448708 - 01/02/18 11:09 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
1mansaxband Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 11/26/16
Posts: 43
Now playing normally waiting for final verdict, Thanks so far....

Top
#448709 - 01/02/18 11:13 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
1mansaxband Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 11/26/16
Posts: 43
The red notes are not showing sometimes on playback (helps me find my place in case of distraction at Gigs...) seems song generation is slower now and I have it on Jukebox, should I freeze tracks ?


Edited by 1mansaxband (01/02/18 11:15 PM)

Top
#448710 - 01/02/18 11:14 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
Noel96 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 13218
Loc: Australia
Is the song that's stuttering an up tempo one and/or one that has many Realtracks that need generating?
_________________________
LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS


Top
#448711 - 01/02/18 11:18 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: Noel96]
1mansaxband Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 11/26/16
Posts: 43
There will never be another you, t150 Bouncy Dixie Swing added Mandolin and Cello...

Top
#448712 - 01/02/18 11:20 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
1mansaxband Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 11/26/16
Posts: 43
Next song Jazz Swing Trio t220 loaded quick...no stutter on 3 played

Top
#448713 - 01/02/18 11:23 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
1mansaxband Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 11/26/16
Posts: 43
Next song took a bit longer to load...Crooner Big Band with 9 part horns...I need to freeze these ?

Top
#448715 - 01/02/18 11:28 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
Noel96 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 13218
Loc: Australia
Ahh... that's a pretty lively tempo.

When BIAB generates a song with "Speed up generation" enabled, it generates the first half dozen bars or so and then begins playing. Generation of the rest of the song then proceeds as a background process while playing is in progress.

What I suspect is happening with this song is that because of the tempo, by the time you get near the end of the song, you've caught up to where the background regenerating is happening (hence the stuttering - BIAB is trying to play notes that are still being generated). The combined process of generating and playing simultaneously, pushes a computer's CPU to the limit.

When you play a song that has a tempo of 100, I anticipate that stuttering does not occur because BIAB can generate fast enough to keep ahead of the playing.

If my theory is correct, all should proceed well with the "Speed up generation" disabled.

Regards,
Noel


_________________________
LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS


Top
#448716 - 01/02/18 11:29 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
Noel96 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 13218
Loc: Australia
Originally Posted By: 1mansaxband
Next song took a bit longer to load...Crooner Big Band with 9 part horns...I need to freeze these ?


Yes, the more Realtracks you have, the more you're expecting of the computer.

Freezing will help load the songs a little quicker because BIAB has already determined the chord progressions.

The quickest way to load a song would be to render it to audio and then to use a CD/DVD player to play the song. (This is also a very wise backup plan in case BIAB or your computer misbehaves during the performance.)


_________________________
LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS


Top
#448717 - 01/02/18 11:34 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
1mansaxband Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 11/26/16
Posts: 43
I am now freezing them....any thoughts on the red notes going missing at times ?

Top
#448718 - 01/02/18 11:36 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
Noel96 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 13218
Loc: Australia
Are you using notation mode?
_________________________
LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS


Top
#448719 - 01/02/18 11:36 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: Noel96]
1mansaxband Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 11/26/16
Posts: 43
Originally Posted By: Noel96
Originally Posted By: 1mansaxband
Next song took a bit longer to load...Crooner Big Band with 9 part horns...I need to freeze these ?


Yes, the more Realtracks you have, the more you're expecting of the computer.

Freezing will help load the songs a little quicker because BIAB has already determined the chord progressions.

The quickest way to load a song would be to render it to audio and then to use a CD/DVD player to play the song. (This is also a very wise backup plan in case BIAB or your computer misbehaves during the performance.)


If I render it to audio and have it on a CD I also need to print my lead sheets ?

Top
#448720 - 01/02/18 11:38 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
1mansaxband Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 11/26/16
Posts: 43
Stutter is back...

Top
#448721 - 01/02/18 11:42 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
Noel96 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 13218
Loc: Australia
What are you computer specs?

Operating system, RAM, CPU speed, etc.

Also... How many RTs are you using on the song that stuttered and what is it's tempo.

Lastly, double-check that the 'Speed up generation' is still disabled.

(Please make notes and I'll read them when I get back in bit. I need to leave the computer for a while now.)
_________________________
LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS


Top
#448722 - 01/02/18 11:53 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: Noel96]
1mansaxband Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 11/26/16
Posts: 43
Win 10 home 1.6 ghz 8 gb ram 64 bit

Top
#448723 - 01/02/18 11:56 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
1mansaxband Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 11/26/16
Posts: 43
To be continued tomorrow, its 12 midnite here on Jan 2 in Canada.....youre in Australia 7pm Jan 3 ? Thanks for all your help..

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >


PG Music News
Tutorials - How to Install Band-in-a-Box® for Mac

Here are some tutorial videos we've created to help you install your Band-in-a-Box® purchase.

Our Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, and PlusPAK are delivered as a download, on DVD, or on a 32GB USB flash drive.

Installing Band-in-a-Box® from DVD: click here to watch.

Installing Band-in-a-Box® from the 32GB flash drive: click here to watch.
Your flash drive shipment also includes a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!

The Band-in-a-Box® UltraPAK is available as a download or shipped on a portable hard drive. When you receive the hard drive version, there are a few different installation options:

Option #1 - Run Band-in-a-Box® directly from the USB drive only: click here to watch.

Option #2 - Install Band-in-a-Box® on your computer hard drive, but leave the RealTracks and RealDrums on the USB hard drive: click here to watch.

Option #3 - Install Band-in-a-Box® AND RealTracks on your computer hard drive: click here to watch.

All of these videos are available on our YouTube Channel or Videos support page.

Video - Making A Song in Band-in-a-Box® 2018

Ever wonder how to create a song in Band-in-a-Box®? We start off with the basics in our latest video for Band-in-a-Box® 2018!

Windows users: click here | Mac users: click here

RealTracks Patch Update for Windows Users

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows users can download the latest RealTracks update patch (519) here.

This patch includes some RealTracks audio updates we have made since the release of Band-in-a-Box 2018. 2018 users should be sure to download the latest Band-in-a-Box 2018 update patch (519), as that patch includes the bulk of the fixes for RealTracks released with 2018. This is a larger download than typical because it updates the Vocal Oohs and Aahs RealTracks audio files. There is more information and Audiophile patches available here.

Summary of RealTracks Audio updates:
Improved: There were small issues with the tuning of several Bass styles. This has been fixed for both the original mix and the direct input mix. This affects the following RealTracks:
- Bass, Acoustic, AmericanaSlow16thsByron Ev16 060
- Bass, Acoustic, AmericanaSlow128Byron Sw 040
- Bass, Acoustic, RockabillySwingByron Sw 190
- Bass, Acoustic, BluesyPopByron Ev 100
Improved: Audio glitches have been removed from the ends of phrases in the Vocal Oohs and Aahs RealTracks.

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows Patch Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows users can download the latest (free) update patch (519) here.

Summary of changes:
Added: Additional dialog available for detailed information in the StyleMaker (fields for memo, examples, and other parameters). These are set in the StyleMaker (more dialog, a button called "Style Memos etc").
Added: Help Video button Added to the Audio Harmony dialog.
Improved: ABC opening improvements with some accidentals, and leadin bars that occur in middle of song.
Improved: Audio harmonies now used Improved algorithms, and can be easily set using N voices above, M voices below (and have additional functions like duplicate melody, and dup. melody octave below).
Improved: Lyrics will be now read from .mid files that used to be karaoke files (.kar) and got renamed somewhere along the line.
Improved: Support for RealTracks that should be transposed only lower (ie heavy metal guitars) and for future Improved metal guitar comping.
Improved: The Audio Harmony Dialog has been rearranged to be more intuitive when using Band-in-a-Box Intelligent Mode.
Fixed: Audio harmonies might be missing some notes.
Fixed: Audio harmonies would be generated with the wrong notes if selecting a range of audio in the middle of the track.
Fixed: Band-in-a-Box might crash on bootup with error "Read Beyond end of file".
Fixed: Band-in-a-Box should show message if the latest VJT application is not installed when the user tries to render videos.
Fixed: File > Open Special > Open Audio was importing audio instead of opening it in a new song.
Fixed: In the Bar Settings window, "Chordsheet and Notation - Start a New Line" should say "Notation - Start a New Line".
Fixed: It was not possible to record audio using WAS audio drivers if "Output always on" was disabled.
Fixed: Misc. RealTracks updates.
Fixed: Quicklist drums picker sometimes showing too many drums in the list.
Fixed: Redundant flash messages were showing.
Fixed: Removing a custom drums from a track would still display Drums as the name of the loop in the track.
Fixed: Rendering audio while there is a region of bars highlighted in the chord sheet might cause a crash.
Fixed: Saving a MIDI file would fail unless saving as type 1.
Fixed: Some 12-key RealTracks were incorrectly set to allow transposition.
Fixed: The Audio Harmony dialog needed some hints.
Fixed: The Audio Harmony dialog was missing the new Band-in-a-Box Intelligent Mode.
Fixed: The VJT application should print out its version number in log files.

Tutorials - How to Install Your Band-in-a-Box® for Mac Hard Drive

When you have your Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac UltraPAK shipped to you on a portable hard drive, there are a few different options for installation. We go over these 3 options with our latest video series:

Option 1: Run Band-in-a-Box® directly from the USB drive only: click here to view.

Option 2: Install Band-in-a-Box® on your computer hard drive, but leave the RealTracks & RealDrums on the USB hard drive: click here to view.

Option 3: Install Band-in-a-Box® and the RealTracks & RealDrums on your computer hard drive: click here to view.

Check out all our Band-in-a-Box for Mac videos here.

Video - Downloading and Installing RealTracks Sets for Band-in-a-Box® for Mac

Have you purchased your Band-in-a-Box® package, and want to make sure you're downloading and installing the RealTracks Sets correctly?

Well, we've created just the tutorial video you're looking for! Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac® - Downloading and Installing RealTracks Sets.

Video link:
www.pgmusic.com/?vid=QndXu8H_IwM

Thoughts on Band-in-a-Box® 2017 - Mac Power Users Discussion

David Sparks and Katie Floyd discuss a variety of topics in their recent episide of Mac Power Users: https://www.relay.fm/mpu/432 - listen all the way through (and laugh along with them - it was a very entertaining episode!), or jump to 1:37:40 where David shares his thoughts on Band-in-a-Box® 2017 for Mac!

Thank you David and Katie!

Forum Stats
27633 Members
50 Forums
52274 Topics
432774 Posts

Max Online: 2434 @ 11/14/17 12:37 AM
Newest Members
LeftyMark, War Eagle, reaper19, Waaree, Eridanus

27633 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Icelander 180
Noel96 158
Janice & Bud 140
David Snyder 129
rsdean 116
Deryk - PG Music 113
beatmaster 106
Kent - PG Music 99
MarioD 98
eddie1261 - gone 96
Today's Birthdays
Daniel Parra, Ian M, sinly