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#448719 - 01/02/18 11:36 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: Noel96]
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Originally Posted By: Noel96
Originally Posted By: 1mansaxband
Next song took a bit longer to load...Crooner Big Band with 9 part horns...I need to freeze these ?


Yes, the more Realtracks you have, the more you're expecting of the computer.

Freezing will help load the songs a little quicker because BIAB has already determined the chord progressions.

The quickest way to load a song would be to render it to audio and then to use a CD/DVD player to play the song. (This is also a very wise backup plan in case BIAB or your computer misbehaves during the performance.)


If I render it to audio and have it on a CD I also need to print my lead sheets ?

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#448720 - 01/02/18 11:38 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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Stutter is back...

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#448721 - 01/02/18 11:42 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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What are you computer specs?

Operating system, RAM, CPU speed, etc.

Also... How many RTs are you using on the song that stuttered and what is it's tempo.

Lastly, double-check that the 'Speed up generation' is still disabled.

(Please make notes and I'll read them when I get back in bit. I need to leave the computer for a while now.)
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#448722 - 01/02/18 11:53 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: Noel96]
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Win 10 home 1.6 ghz 8 gb ram 64 bit

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#448723 - 01/02/18 11:56 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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To be continued tomorrow, its 12 midnite here on Jan 2 in Canada.....youre in Australia 7pm Jan 3 ? Thanks for all your help..

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#448731 - 01/03/18 12:52 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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Reinstalling my graphics drivers with the latest non-gamer basic version and especially no acceleration active fixed my USB audio problems. F

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#449042 - 01/04/18 10:18 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: fiddler2007]
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I 've got it working, Tech support had me switch to MME and that was problem as I use 2i2 Scarlett so going back to ASIO has solved stutter, still have the melody sound behind 4 bars compared to the red notes and RealTracks. I also am trying to find this awesome dialogue box I had for setting the buffer/sample rate. I can't remember where I got it Ableton ? Focusrite ? ASIO4all ?

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#449051 - 01/04/18 10:47 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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Originally Posted By: 1mansaxband
I 've got it working, Tech support had me switch to MME and that was problem as I use 2i2 Scarlett so going back to ASIO has solved stutter, still have the melody sound behind 4 bars compared to the red notes and RealTracks. I also am trying to find this awesome dialogue box I had for setting the buffer/sample rate. I can't remember where I got it Ableton ? Focusrite ? ASIO4all ?

Asio4all used to be a good one, but most modern sound cards have their own asio drivers. Probably your scarlett has a control panel for buffer size in some sub menu. MME is fine, but on my system it causes a delay of about one second before playback responds. As Noel suggested: try bypassing your virus scanner for the whole BIAB folder, that sometimes solve stutters and delays. But on my system BIAB 2018 definitely renders slower with the same (a complex arrangement) file as 2017. I mailed Kent - PGsupport about that, and i guess he's looking into it. He tested the same file, and has found no problems, but i still do. Biab 2018 takes 15 seconds to render all the audio, while 2017 does the same in 5 seconds, a puzzle .... A melody track usually comes with sounds generated by a softsynth like Coyote, try another one maybe? -F

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#449077 - 01/04/18 12:32 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: fiddler2007]
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Yes the Focusrite has a buffer control panel, I get it on drivers menu 1ms to 10ms buffer and it shows fixed latency set at 21.4 to 31.4. This 1 I used to have had setting for kHz 48? ? And latency at 1024, And it showed "no driver connected" when Scarlett was not connected.

I have a email in to Focusrite to see if they know what it was. Maybe this was from ASIO4ALL or Ableton....I will update that...

I am now freezing my tracks and the generation is super fast. Bypassing the Avast seemed to work but it was definitely the MME, switching to ASIO and no problem since....


Edited by 1mansaxband (01/04/18 12:34 PM)

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#449078 - 01/04/18 12:40 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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Originally Posted By: 1mansaxband
I 've got it working, Tech support had me switch to MME and that was problem as I use 2i2 Scarlett so going back to ASIO has solved stutter, still have the melody sound behind 4 bars compared to the red notes and RealTracks. I also am trying to find this awesome dialogue box I had for setting the buffer/sample rate. I can't remember where I got it Ableton ? Focusrite ? ASIO4all ?


Cool. Glad you got it working.

I would have mentioned MME but in your first two posts in this thread you already said that you had MME set as your audio driver (unless I misinterpreted something).

For those who read this thread, it's worth mentioning that when problem solving with BIAB, setting the audio driver to MME is always a really good early step in the process.

All the best with your gig!
Noel
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#449088 - 01/04/18 01:34 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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I have also found that if my ASIO driver goes wonky on me, just setting it back to MME, and then resetting to ASIO fixes things also.

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#449094 - 01/04/18 01:46 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: Noel96]
Richard W Offline
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Greetings everyone and happy new year,

it sounds like I am having almost the same problem, however, unfortunately I'm not very computer savy and I don't seem to be able to find where or how to change to the MME Driver..

I have found the driver options but only see micrsoft midi and Microsoft GS choises.


Can someone point me in the direction of a step by step?

Thank you

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#449095 - 01/04/18 01:52 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
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Hi Richard,

Welcome to the forums.

The graphic below should help. It's under "Options | Preferences | Audio".

Regards,
Noel


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mme driver.JPG


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#449097 - 01/04/18 01:56 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: Noel96]
Richard W Offline
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Awww ... found it ... thank you .....

giving it a try as we speak .....

fingers crossed ....

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#449122 - 01/04/18 04:27 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Upgraded from 2016 Pro to 2018 Ultra and now I get stutters... [Re: 1mansaxband]
Richard W Offline
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Registered: 01/04/18
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That has made a big difference. It is still not 100% however it should get me through this weekends performance ... I hope

Thanks for the help and I may need it again ... smile

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