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#448215 - 12/31/17 09:38 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Upgrade Ultraplus 2016 to 2018 [Re: MusicStudent]
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Thank you, this works. I am missing a lot of the 2016 RTs in the folder so I guess I will need to download and install these again.

Do the RT and RD demos also be moved to these folders?


Edited by Steevus (12/31/17 09:40 AM)

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#448404 - 01/01/18 08:10 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Upgrade Ultraplus 2016 to 2018 [Re: Steevus]
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First, Happy 2018 to all of you!

Last few days I have been struggling to install the BIAB 2018 update for my current 2016 version. I purchased the dowload version, not the physical disk. Part of the struggle was due to the fact that the complete BIAB 2016 was on my internal SSD, while I now wanted to have 2018 program on my SSD, and Drums and RealTracks files on an external drive.

Thanks to the assistance of several people on this forum I think I managed to do that properly. After a few mistakes I finally downloaded the program to my internal drive and then moved RealTracks and Drums folders to an external drive. The program on my internal drive is now only 15Gb. I am about to activate the 2018 update. In light of this I have a few additional questions:

- I made a backup copy and a full copy of BIAB 2016 before upgrading to 2018. Do I still need these? Or will a backup of 2018 overwrite 2016 anyway (and how to do this?)
- Would it make sense to download and install all RT and RD files again to be sure I am not missing any of these during upgrade? Or does the program have a facility to check for this?
- BIAB 2018 has video’s etc. now. Should I install these in a separate folder again?
- Does the 2018 program have three activation codes again? And if so, how does the 2016 activation relates to the 2018 one(s)? Will activation 2018 replace 2016? I have only one left for 2016.

Thank you

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#448410 - 01/01/18 08:31 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Upgrade Ultraplus 2016 to 2018 [Re: Steevus]
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Originally Posted By: Steevus
First, Happy 2018 to all of you!

Last few days I have been struggling to install the BIAB 2018 update for my current 2016 version. I purchased the dowload version, not the physical disk. Part of the struggle was due to the fact that the complete BIAB 2016 was on my internal SSD, while I now wanted to have 2018 program on my SSD, and Drums and RealTracks files on an external drive.

Thanks to the assistance of several people on this forum I think I managed to do that properly. After a few mistakes I finally downloaded the program to my internal drive and then moved RealTracks and Drums folders to an external drive. The program on my internal drive is now only 15Gb. I am about to activate the 2018 update. In light of this I have a few additional questions:

- I made a backup copy and a full copy of BIAB 2016 before upgrading to 2018. Do I still need these? Or will a backup of 2018 overwrite 2016 anyway (and how to do this?) Band-in-a-Box will automatically makes a back-up prior to any update including new annual releases. I'm not sure how to answer the second part of your question because I always take the last back-up of each year, copy to an external drive I use for storage and rename for that year.
- Would it make sense to download and install all RT and RD files again to be sure I am not missing any of these during upgrade? You should be able to view the files in your account against the files you have on your drive. For instance if your account has 8 files in it then you should have 8 downloaded files.Or does the program have a facility to check for this?The program can automatically check for updates but it can not determine if you're missing a file you overlooked and didn't download.
- BIAB 2018 has video’s etc. now. Should I install these in a separate folder again?I'd leave the video RealTracks in place unless you are 100% sure you don't want them. You can always move or delete later.
- Does the 2018 program have three activation codes again? Yes And if so, how does the 2016 activation relates to the 2018 one(s)? 2016 activation codes are different than 2018 activation codesWill activation 2018 replace 2016? Each annual update gets three activation codes.I have only one left for 2016. The remaining 2016 activation code will not be used unless you decide to roll back to 2016 more than 30 days after the upgrade.

Thank you
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#448632 - 01/02/18 11:13 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Upgrade Ultraplus 2016 to 2018 [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Thank you, I have downloaded and installed all the new 2018 Realtracks, using the BIAB download manager. The program works, though I am wondering why I don't see all the RT numbers listed in the Set#** column of the Style picker. Many tracks are listed as 'Misc.'(Miscellaneous),or MST. Many real tracks also have the same number. Is this how it should be?

Also, when I start the cleanup routine I get a whole series of logs like this one:

>>>>>> mergeFolders
source = C:\bb_2018\Soundtrack MIDI Fakebook
dest = C:\bb_2018\Songs and Lessons\Soundtrack MIDI Fakebook
backup = C:\bb_2018\Data\Backup\Misc\
ERROR: source dir does not exist: C:\bb_2018\Soundtrack MIDI Fakebook
<<<<<< mergeFolders errorCount 0

And at the end this one:

Files with STY extension are absent in folder C:\bb_2018\
Files with STX extension are absent in folder C:\bb_2018\
There are no files found by mask C:\bb_2018\unins*.exe
There are no files found by mask C:\bb_2018\unins*.dat
work completed

What do you think about this?

Thanks

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#448640 - 01/02/18 11:36 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Upgrade Ultraplus 2016 to 2018 [Re: Steevus]
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There were some minor issues showing the correct number and content of styles. Have you downloaded and installed build #508? Go to the Support gray tab at the top of the screen.
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#448653 - 01/02/18 12:53 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Upgrade Ultraplus 2016 to 2018 [Re: Matt Finley]
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I just installed the build update, regrettably it didn't change the set# numbers nor the error logs I showed here. Perhaps I should ask the BIAB people?

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#448662 - 01/02/18 01:26 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Upgrade Ultraplus 2016 to 2018 [Re: Steevus]
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How many times have you run the cleanup routine? If more than once, those errors are most likely telling you the files aren't there because they have already been moved. Did you look at your backup of 2016 to see if those source files were there in the first place? And have you looked at your current installation to see if the files are present in the new destination?
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#448735 - 01/03/18 02:28 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Upgrade Ultraplus 2016 to 2018 [Re: jford]
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I guess that may explain it. I have checked a copy I made of the 2016 program before upgrading. It indeed includes the original source folders and files. And 2018 has the new destination folders. So I assume cleanup has already been taken place earlier.

As to the listing of styles on the Stylepicker under the Set# column, some styles are labeled as Realtracks (e.g. RT295); many however as Miscellaneous. Does this stand for a mix of Realtracks and Midi?


Thank you--Fred



Edited by Steevus (01/03/18 03:01 AM)

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#448756 - 01/03/18 05:41 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Upgrade Ultraplus 2016 to 2018 [Re: Steevus]
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When you install anything earlier than BIAB 2018, files go to the old locations in /BB. You have to run Cleanup after that.
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#448778 - 01/03/18 06:28 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Upgrade Ultraplus 2016 to 2018 [Re: Matt Finley]
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Ah, yes, thanks, I changed the name of the 2018 folder... See if I can fix that

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