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What is in the water up there? I have so much fun with products from Vancouver! On a business level, I am Marketing Director for the Beer Machine in Austria, invented in Vancouver. On a personal dream level I am involved with PG software, invented in Vancouver. My life just would not be the same without either of these two businesses... Thank you Vancouver for the fun in my life! 
Follow That Dream Sam Karaoke King -------------------- Turning that corner again - I have to keep following that dream, no matter what
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Well PG Music is in Victoria, and perhaps one of the best trips going is to take the ferry from Vancouver to the island. I've 2 sisters who live on the island, and love to visit. As soon as gypsies come by and want my 19 year old daughter, I'm trading her for a caravan and I'm traveling for 5 years. Got the cash, got the gear, just need the last of the 4 kids to leave the nest.
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I think it has to do with the temperate climate Sam - no brain freeze for six months of the year on the West coast, only snow in the mountains - Vancouver drivers can't handle snow driving, they just pull over and park then walk home. . . .  just too much rain for my liking in Vancouver, Victoria which is off the coast is sunnier. BC is more kin to Californian trends than to the rest of Canada - I have five kids who moved West and make their homes in Vancouver (4) and Whistler (1). My home is in Ottawa, 2nd coldest capital city in the world next to Mongolia's. Seriously. Ottawa is also the seat of our federal government - ask anybody about the brain freeze on Parliament Hill - very few good ideas come from here  Ian
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Well at least you get 10 months of winter and 2 months of bad snowmobiling. The only city where you can skate to the next province or 1/2 way to Montreal. LOL.
In Vancouver you can golf in the morning and go skiing in the afternoon.
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LOL John.
Not dumping on BC - it's just another world on the other side of those mountains.
You stand there looking East and Ottawa is a l-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-ng ways away.
Flying out there this summer past to son's wedding, we saw a brown cloud from the Okanagan fires stretching halfway across BC and it takes about an hour to fly across BC - you definitely get a sense of separation from the rest of Canada when you're there.
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Ottawa - Nov 28, no snow yet, sunny, high today about 2C/35F. Here's a link to winter pics of Ottawa if anyone out there is curious Ottawa Winter pics Sunny, windy - a good day to stay inside and work on some tunes. Cheers All
Last edited by Ian Fraser; 11/28/09 09:08 AM.
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We drove up to Vancouver and took the ferry to Victoria and really enjoyed the trip. Flowers everywhere in both cities and a lot of quality sidewalk entertainment from street musicians and other acts. Really enjoyed the Buchart (sp) Gardens a few miles north of Victoria.
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Quite a drive, Don - the cities are quite beautiful. In all fairness when I was in Vancouver last summer they had a two-week record heat wave - lots of sun, little rain - unusual for the coast.
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I live in the heart of Victoria (my front windows face Beacon Hill Park). Ten minute walk to the ocean.
Today it's raining (November is the wettest month), but yesterday it was +10C and sunny all day. My relatives in Saskatchewan all think that our weather is the same as Vancouver's - it is except it isn't as hot or cold, and we get about 1/2 the rain 'Couver gets.
The water in Vancouver (and Victoria) comes from reservoirs fed by watersheds in the mountains/hills above the cities - rain and some snowmelt that requires very little treatment other than disinfection for safety. Virtually no hardness at all. Without any hardness, it makes great beer, and the number of small or micro breweries attests to this. Sam knows what I mean.
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When I update Powertracks, I drive to PG's office, pay for it and pick it up. It's a ten minute drive from here.
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I was in Victoria once in '68 as a student, we landed and then caught a bus for Shawnigan Lake. Stayed at a lodge there then canoed across the lake to visit two girls I knew who attended the girls' school there. My basic tour of Victoria was a walk around the Empress hotel and the waterfront. Tell me Glenn, does PG have a storefront? I've never thought to ask. Ian
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I'm not sure if it started there, but I believe that PG Music was located im Missisauga, close to Toronto before it re-located to Victoria. The only really important thing is that it is somewhere. That it exists...Hank
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If PG have an actual shop, could somebody take a photo and post it up here, please? I would love to see what it looks like. Glenn, I see you post your location as 'PC City'. Cool!
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I live about a 5 minute walk from Glenn's place, next to Beacon Hill Park, Victoria.
When going to get a new release from PG Music, it's a 15 minute bus ride to the north end of town. Located in what appears to be an old two-storey motel - no sign, no reception area - last I saw.
A strangely creative bunch of folk live here. Home turf for: a group of programmers who do(did?) software development for Korg; another group of programmers who do(did?) software development for Digitech; the ACD photo manipulation software company; formerly the home of Larrivee guitars; home of Rod Evans of Evans guitar pickups; hosts of last year's international Linux conference; home of the largest (per capita) Canadian population of wiccans/witches/pagans (one of them a prominent local politician, author and educator); centre for a west coast aboriginal language preservation project.
Victoria, a small island city, is often confused with Vancouver, a large mainland city, because we are situated on the southern tip of Vancouver Island.
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Oren . . . hmmm! Changed a bit since I was there - must be a fascinating enclave. probably feel the intellectual energy a block away . . . seriously. Appreciate the insight. Next time in Vancouver, I will have to commandeer one of my kids' cars for a "drive" over. Ian
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Its also home to the business I represent here in Vienna. We are the distributors (exclusive contract for 10 countries in Central Europe) for The Beer Machine
Follow That Dream Sam Karaoke King -------------------- Turning that corner again - I have to keep following that dream, no matter what
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Too many posts to respond to by quoting to each.
Ian: They occupy a portion of a two storey building on Cadillac Avenue in Saanich (a municipality adjacent to Victoria - there are about twelve such other municipalities that use Victoria as their mailing address even though they have elected mayors and councillors). There is no sign identifying them, so when I first went there I had trouble finding the place. Oren described it quite well.
Rutabago: A pianist friend of mine rebuilds and deals in pianos - Peter Gannon bought a piano from him. It's been discussed on this forum before, but PG was trained as a physician (I don't know anymore so can't add to this). So my guess is that PG Music started here, but then it may have originated somewhere else - don't know.
Sam: I hope it reads PG City or I'll have to fix it.
Oren: Actually if you haven't moved, I could get to your place on one breath of air. Which reminds me, I have some letters to mail on Quadra right beside your building.
Ian: (again): I was first here in 1963, and it's change immensely since then. I moved here in 2000, and it's change a lot since then.
If any of you guys are here and have some spare time, you can find me in the phone book (it's my real name), but be careful as my daughter and son use the same last name. Being semi-retired, I have the time to tour special PG guests around the city, and would welcome the chance.
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Seems to me I remember PG Music being in Buffalo AND Victoria back in the early 90s.
I'll give you fair warning if I ever get there.
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Glenn, I may be there sooner than we both think! If it all works out right with The Beer Machine, I could well be visiting. If I managed to make it to Vancouver, somehow, do you think I would not look up friends like you or check out the PG home?
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If I managed to make it to Vancouver, somehow, do you think I would not look up friends like you or check out the PG home?
Sam - having "been there, and NOT done that" - I feel truly chastised and humbled.
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a very beautiful area. i often visited friends in port coquitlem (sp?) while i lived in seattle. fond memories. superb beer. i too would like to see a photo of the pg music facilities glenn.
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