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#449034 - 01/04/18 09:35 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Shots and holds for ALL chord options
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Piano may have many options, but I play my own piano track.

Almost every track I create uses Oliver Gannon's guitar tracks, great stuff! But I need a full range of shots and holds for more complex chords (flat 9, augs, almost EVERY chord offers a 7th, a 6th and a #5, one version only and no complex changes.

These are vital to serious composition, please ask Mr. Gannon to reprise his work and fill out the options.

Granted, I do not need an F7b5b9 for my hard-rock shuffles, but for the Great American Songbook, these are everyday needs.

I have asked for this since 2014, BTW...


Edited by The Soundsmith (01/04/18 09:35 AM)
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#449043 - 01/04/18 10:20 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Shots and holds for ALL chord options [Re: The Soundsmith]
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I think +1.

About Holds, there was a long discussion of this at one time, perhaps in response to an earlier post by you - I don't recall that part. But PG Music told us something like only major and minor chords could be relied on to work with holds on endings. I probably have oversimplified that, and I don't have a reference. Nevertheless I think you are correct that some chords will simply not hold.

And as a jazz composer, I do need F7(b5,b9), or F7alt, to be held in my songs.

About Shots, I don't have a problem as-is. What are you having trouble with?
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#449044 - 01/04/18 10:30 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Shots and holds for ALL chord options [Re: The Soundsmith]
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The issue also is that, if you have a hold in BIAB, do you really want all the instruments ( guitar, piano, and strings track instruments) to all be playing all the same notes F-A-Cb-Eb (F7b5) simultaneously.
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#449046 - 01/04/18 10:34 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Shots and holds for ALL chord options [Re: The Soundsmith]
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Originally Posted By: The Soundsmith


These are vital to serious composition


Agree, +1

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#449049 - 01/04/18 10:38 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Shots and holds for ALL chord options [Re: The Soundsmith]
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Adding another vote of support.
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#449054 - 01/04/18 10:55 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Shots and holds for ALL chord options [Re: jford]
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Originally Posted By: jford
The issue also is that, if you have a hold in BIAB, do you really want all the instruments ( guitar, piano, and strings track instruments) to all be playing all the same notes F-A-Cb-Eb (F7b5) simultaneously.


I normally do. I used to, with all MIDI. But you raise an interesting point: it would be nice to have options.
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#449064 - 01/04/18 11:26 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Shots and holds for ALL chord options [Re: Matt Finley]
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"Shots and holds for ALL chord options"

More than 100 types of chords are allowed in BIAB.

Not sure you will get shots and holds for ALL that stuff...

So some choices will have to be done by somebody ...
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#449137 - 01/04/18 06:35 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Shots and holds for ALL chord options [Re: The Soundsmith]
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First-thanks guys, for the votes of support. John Luke, you are right that there are many options to cover. But this is a forum, I tried to simplify the header.

The need is for two things: more voicing choices on the existing shots/holds, and additional shots and holds for more advanced chords.In truth, it doesn't need to be a lot, a dozen should be fine, if each has three voicing/performance selections.

Major and minor 6ths and 7ths and the b9/b5 and dim/half-dim options two or three each by the artist would be an enormous asset.

As it is, I can live with muting a guitar shot if the bass is solid, but holds I have to reconstruct in my DAW. Thanks for joining in.
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#451899 - 01/17/18 07:16 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Shots and holds for ALL chord options [Re: The Soundsmith]
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#451967 - 01/18/18 08:31 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Shots and holds for ALL chord options [Re: The Soundsmith]
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+1. David, thanks for revisiting the request. The discussion is interesting. It seems that there is always the desire for more options.
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#452109 - 01/18/18 05:16 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Shots and holds for ALL chord options [Re: The Soundsmith]
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#452516 - 01/20/18 07:05 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Shots and holds for ALL chord options [Re: John Payne]
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