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hello
is it ok to have Realtracks & Realdrums installed on a Sandisk SD memorycard?
Whats the minimum data transfer speed required?
thanks
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All I can say is a few of us experimented running BIAB on flash drives about three years ago and they weren’t fast enough. To my knowledge no one has asked your question before. Try it and let us know! Certainly SD cards come in many speeds. I would guess a 10 rating would be a minimum to work.
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I have used a SanDisk 128gb USB 3 card for Realtracks and drums on my Lenovo laptop for 6 months. Works fine!
Usb3 card and port is the key.
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Garth, just checking, that's a SanDisk SD 3 card, yes?
That's really good news. A speed rating of 3 is a lot slower than I would have expected to work.
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Not SD card. Usb3 thumb drive in Usb3 socket. Built in SD sockets on laptops are not part of USB sub system I believe.
Drive is SanDisk Ultrafit 128gb usb3 and has very fast read speed.
Garth
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Thanks for clarifying. Still, this is good news.
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Very interesting. 128 gigs is more than enough for the entire RT/RD library if it's not the Audiophile one. I have Biab installed on my C drive but access the RT's from the PG external. If I can unplug it and use a thumb drive that's one less thing cluttering up my space.
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Define "fast enough" - fast enough for what? Exactly how can it NOT be used to load RT's from a SD card? MY BIAB with RT's work so: less than year old Win 10 laptop (which has to pull double work and hobby/music duty) only has a 1TB SDD. That poor thing is already at 80'ish % used. so I have RT's stored along with a few other space eaters on a 200GB SanDisk Ultra (I'll get a larger SD card later) https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Ultra-200GB-Micro-Adapter/dp/B073JY5T7T/ref=dp_ob_title_ceBut the SD card port is ONLY USB 2 interface speeds. The laptop has USB 3.1, two USB 3's and a USB 2 as well as the SD card reader but the SD card interface is on USB 2 bus. I will grant you a heavy RT usage song takes a little longer to get going than from a standard 2.5" laptop SATA 3 5400 RPM HDD (normally for a COTS laptop if you wanted 7200 RPM HDD you'd pay a hefty premium or mod with an R&R after market yourself). BUt since we are here a 5400 RPM HDD takes longer than the same SATA 3 interface using a SATA ACHI SDD or M.2 which takes longer than a PCIe NVMe SDD drive. But I don't think many HERE are running NVMe SDD's or Optane's as their laptop drives (yet). Larry
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I have my BIAB 2018 loaded on a PNY Elite SDXC 256 GB disk. It's rated at 95 MB/Sec. Realtracks generate in about 8 seconds, which I think is about the same as what they did when BIAB was loaded on the hard drive.
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I have my BIAB 2018 loaded on a PNY Elite SDXC 256 GB disk. It's rated at 95 MB/Sec. Realtracks generate in about 8 seconds, which I think is about the same as what they did when BIAB was loaded on the hard drive. Looks like a great deal & speed .... just paid about the same for a Samsung Pro 850 SSD for my boot C drive. About that price. Now i only wonder if you use SD cards for intense use, if they can get rid of eventual heat easy enough. This as they're quite small compared to an SSD drive. -F
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Good news Thanks everyone for your answers 
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