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#450915 - 01/13/18 02:36 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Sound gone wonky since windows update
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Sound has been bloody rubbish since windows update on Wednesday. It's been bitty and biab keeps changing the settings every time I use it. It's become a blasted nightmare. Anyone got any ideas for help ? I've reinstalled the drivers for my Behringer interface, and tried increasing buffer settings. Mkaes no difference.
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#450920 - 01/13/18 02:48 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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Nasty audio after a Windows update seems to be quite common. I have found that uninstalling the device driver, rebooting you PC with the sound card plugged in will force the driver to be reinstalled. Since doing this my sound has been much better. Albeit BIAB sometimes stops it renders fine. Sonar also has more audio dropouts than it used to but that could be me I have reworked most of my backing files since the update of Windows and BB 2018.

For what it is worth, Tony


Edited by Teunis (01/13/18 02:50 PM)
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#450922 - 01/13/18 02:50 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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For those of us in the USA, could you define the sound of 'bloody rubbish' and 'bitty'? Seriously, it might help.

Did you check your Windows settings for bit and sample rate, to make them 16/44.1 ?
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#450924 - 01/13/18 02:50 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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Yeah Tony, I DID uninstall & re-install my interface drivers. Everything still sucks
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#450925 - 01/13/18 02:52 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
For those of us in the USA, could you define the sound of 'bloody rubbish' and 'bitty'? Seriously, it might help.

Did you check your Windows settings for bit and sample rate, to make them 16/44.1 ?




Yep Bitty for sure.......I've increased the sample rates and the buffer rate. Same problem
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#450930 - 01/13/18 03:08 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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Graham,

Have you shut down your computer and restarted it? Logging off is not usually enough where drivers are involved.

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#450934 - 01/13/18 03:25 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: Noel96]
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Originally Posted By: Noel96
Graham,

Have you shut down your computer and restarted it? Logging off is not usually enough where drivers are involved.

Regards,
Noel




Yep about 4 or five times
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#450974 - 01/13/18 05:13 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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Graham, have you checked your audio in the device manager. I have a Roland Octa-Capture and if it isn't on during the Window's update Ms turns on my on-board RealTek audio. That can screw up audio. I have to go in and turn them off.

As soon as Win 10 starts to update turn on your printer and external audio interface. This way Win 10 knows what you have. As you know MS wants it done their way and if these aren't turned on Win 10 will set things up for you, regardless if you want them to or not.
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#450977 - 01/13/18 05:59 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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I meant, can you tell me what bloody rubbish and bitty sounds like?
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#450978 - 01/13/18 06:08 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: MarioD]
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Hey Mario, you may have hit on something there. I always ensure all devices connected to the PC are on when I do major updates I just checked my audio devices on the PC and sure enough both the Roland Quad capture and the onboard card were on. I just turned off the onboard card. I have never bothered checking that before. I used to always have the onboard card turned of in BIOS but I guess this time I have not. Thanks again.

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#451068 - 01/14/18 06:35 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: MarioD]
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Originally Posted By: MarioD
Graham, have you checked your audio in the device manager. I have a Roland Octa-Capture and if it isn't on during the Window's update Ms turns on my on-board RealTek audio. That can screw up audio. I have to go in and turn them off.

As soon as Win 10 starts to update turn on your printer and external audio interface. This way Win 10 knows what you have. As you know MS wants it done their way and if these aren't turned on Win 10 will set things up for you, regardless if you want them to or not.




Yep divice shows as behringer, and it's on even before I boot the PC
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#451069 - 01/14/18 06:38 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
I meant, can you tell me what bloody rubbish and bitty sounds like?



Crackly and it stutters it the best way I can describe it.
Biab also changes from ASIO to WAS every time I start it up
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#451075 - 01/14/18 07:31 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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Sounds similar to a problem I had a while ago with my focusrite interface.

Is the behringer a USB interface?

If so, try this: After Windows has booted up completely and before you try and play any audio, unplug the USB cable from the behringer and plug it back in again.

That will force a reload of the drivers. Does that help?
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#451079 - 01/14/18 08:12 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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It IS USB ! And will try that thanks
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#451081 - 01/14/18 08:18 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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Seems to be much better after uninstalling that ruddy update. I've gone into windows services and stopped the updates. Really sick of them
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