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#451157 - 01/14/18 04:14 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Number of bars per page in notion view [Re: Matt Finley]
Lesley55 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Upgrade to Build 508 and try.


I just upgraded so now it is 508. Good to know what that number is. Do they send out a message when new upgrades come online?

I wonder if they will fix the problem of the played note not turning red in lead sheet or fake sheet view.

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#451162 - 01/14/18 05:15 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Number of bars per page in notion view [Re: Lesley55]
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All new updates to BIAB are announced at the top of the BIAB for PC or BIAB for Mac user forums as appropriate. They are always a sticky post (they stay at the top).

As to this, you should start a new thread: problem of the played note not turning red in lead sheet or fake sheet view.
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#451173 - 01/14/18 05:46 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Number of bars per page in notion view [Re: Lesley55]
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Originally Posted By: Lesley55
Thanks!
Are section markers what you need if the key changed in the middle of the song?

No. To change the key, select the bar and press Function key F5 (or right-click the bar), then change the key using the Bar Settings dialog:


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#451174 - 01/14/18 05:55 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Number of bars per page in notion view [Re: VideoTrack]
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Part marker and key changes are independent, but there is a good reason to use them together. One of the things the part marker does is call for a fill in the measure before. It usually sounds good, and appropriate for a key change.
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#451182 - 01/14/18 06:27 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Number of bars per page in notion view [Re: flatfoot]
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Originally Posted By: flatfoot
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Part marker and key changes are independent, but there is a good reason to use them together. One of the things the part marker does is call for a fill in the measure before. It usually sounds good, and appropriate for a key change.


I am trying to enter the notes for a song that has a has a fill between key changes. Is there some way to indicate that the notes are a fill, and not to be played or sung? (I am making a "play along"). And is there a way of independently controlling the volume of the notes in the fill?

Another question. The part of the song after the fill is the same as the irst part of the song. If I copy the first part of the song into the second part, will it be transposed when I change the key? I want it to be transposed.

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#451185 - 01/14/18 06:38 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Number of bars per page in notion view [Re: Lesley55]
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Originally Posted By: Lesley55
I am trying to enter the notes for a song that has a has a fill between key changes. Is there some way to indicate that the notes are a fill, and not to be played or sung? (I am making a "play along"). And is there a way of independently controlling the volume of the notes in the fill?


1. You could use a text box to enter some text like "not sung" or "instrumental".

2. The volume of the notes is controlled by velocity. There are a few ways to change this. If there aren't too many notes, the easiest way is via right-click on the note head and select "Edit Note" when in Notation Editor.... once there, just set the velocity to (say) 70, if the velocity is set to 90.

Originally Posted By: Lesley55
Another question. The part of the song after the fill is the same as the irst part of the song. If I copy the first part of the song into the second part, will it be transposed when I change the key? I want it to be transposed.


Copy the notes first using "Edit | Copy Special | Copy from... to...", then transpose using 'Edit | Transpose | Transpose from... to..." and, lastly, add the key change.

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#451187 - 01/14/18 07:17 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Number of bars per page in notion view [Re: Lesley55]
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Ok, Noel, I copied the music and transposed it. How do I add the new key signature in the middle of the music?

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#451188 - 01/14/18 07:24 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Number of bars per page in notion view [Re: Lesley55]
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Click on the bar where the key change occurs and press F5 (Bar Settings) to set the new key. (See Videotrack's graphic above.)

That should do the job for you.
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#451195 - 01/14/18 09:09 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Number of bars per page in notion view [Re: Lesley55]
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I am trying to enter the notes for a song that has a has a fill between key changes. Is there some way to indicate that the notes are a fill, and not to be played or sung? (I am making a "play along").
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....Not sure I understand.

BiaB creates the fill notes when you press "generate," but only in the bass, piano, drums, guitar and strings tracks. BiaB does not create anything in the Melody or Soloist tracks.

If are entering the notes for a song in the Melody or Soloist channels, BiaB will not enter the notes of the fill.

If you are entering notes in another channel, freeze it first. Write whatever you want. Take out the fill notes if you like. Freezing will prevent BiaB from changing what you wrote.

What would be the purpose of having fill notes marked "Do Not Play?"


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You got that right! It would be a good idea to experiment with Noel's advice. Its a very useful tool.

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Edited by flatfoot (01/14/18 09:11 PM)
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#451199 - 01/14/18 09:38 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Number of bars per page in notion view [Re: Lesley55]
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Originally Posted By: Noel96
Click on the bar where the key change occurs and press F5 (Bar Settings) to set the new key. (See Videotrack's graphic above.)

That should do the job for you.


Right. Thanks Noel, that worked-- the key changed from C to D and then to Eb.

I had to go back and add the bars for the fill, and I think parts markers (caused from copying) are causing problems. How do you delete them?


Edited by Lesley55 (01/14/18 09:39 PM)

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#451201 - 01/14/18 09:40 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Number of bars per page in notion view [Re: flatfoot]
Lesley55 Offline
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Originally Posted By: flatfoot
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....Not sure I understand.

BiaB creates the fill notes when you press "generate," but only in the bass, piano, drums, guitar and strings tracks. BiaB does not create anything in the Melody or Soloist tracks.

If are entering the notes for a song in the Melody or Soloist channels, BiaB will not enter the notes of the fill.

If you are entering notes in another channel, freeze it first. Write whatever you want. Take out the fill notes if you like. Freezing will prevent BiaB from changing what you wrote.

What would be the purpose of having fill notes marked "Do Not Play?"


This forum has amazingly helpful people. I am so grateful.

You got that right! It would be a good idea to experiment with Noel's advice. Its a very useful tool.

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I'm trying to make it look like the sheet music I am copying it from, so I can play along with it.

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#451210 - 01/14/18 10:45 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Number of bars per page in notion view [Re: Lesley55]
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To delete part markers...

... simply click on the bar number until there is no part marker.

For example
One click on a bar number without part markers will add a blue part marker to that bar.

A second click on the bar number now enclosed in a blue box will turn the part marker to a green one.

A third click on the bar number now enclosed in a green box will remove the part marker (unless it's a style that has more than two part markers available).
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#451215 - 01/14/18 11:36 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Number of bars per page in notion view [Re: Noel96]
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Originally Posted By: Noel96
To delete part markers...

... simply click on the bar number until there is no part marker.

For example
One click on a bar number without part markers will add a blue part marker to that bar.

A second click on the bar number now enclosed in a blue box will turn the part marker to a green one.

A third click on the bar number now enclosed in a green box will remove the part marker (unless it's a style that has more than two part markers available).


Now I'm wondering if I am not dealing with a parts marker. Clicking on the bar number doesn't seem to do anything. There is a red square outline around the bar number in notation mode. Does that indicate a parts marker?

In the chord mode there is a red line under the bar number. When I click on the number in chord view the box around the number changes colour, as you say, but I can't get he red underline to go away no matter how many times I click it.


On another question, is there anyway to make some of the notes smaller, about the size of grace notes? I want all the notes for several bars to be that size. This is what the notes on the "fill" are like on the music I am copying from.

Thank you!

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#451217 - 01/14/18 11:55 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Number of bars per page in notion view [Re: Lesley55]
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The red underline indicates a Bar Setting (Function Key F5) is in place.

The Part Markers are demonstrated here on bars 2, 6 & 10. Each time a part marker is clicked the next available part marker type is selected, usually in this order:
- No Part Marker,
- a: Blue: Part marker type 1,
- b: Green: Part marker 2


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