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#451607 - 01/16/18 04:00 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Exporting from band-in-a-box to a MID file [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
One way to do it in BIAB is to slow down the tempo for that measure. Press F5 on the measure and there are two types of tempo adjustment. Then go to the next measure, do F5, and set the tempo back to normal.


That's how I do it, too. If you have a look at the below thread, it might help you understand how to do it a bit better.

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=451427
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#451652 - 01/16/18 10:18 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Exporting from band-in-a-box to a MID file [Re: Lesley55]
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Thanks for this information about tempo.
I notice that when you press f5 to change tempo it doesn't have a "return to normal" option (the way it has for volume).

And if you decrease it by -10, then later increase it by plus 10, it doesn't return to the original volume. I suppose you would have to increase it by 10/9 , or 11.111... to get it back to the original volume.

So does this mean I am better to put in values for the tempo instead of percent changed? I have entered "Old Man River", and it seems slow down and then resume speed repeatedly. I'd rather use the percentages so I could change the overall tempo more easily.

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#451663 - 01/16/18 10:53 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Exporting from band-in-a-box to a MID file [Re: Lesley55]
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Lesley,

If you are using the % decrease and then increase, your mathematics looks to be correct. This is because the % value uses the current tempo to calculate the new tempo.

That's why I use absolute tempo values in the "Tempo change to" box.

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#451670 - 01/16/18 11:16 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Exporting from band-in-a-box to a MID file [Re: Noel96]
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Ok, thanks Noel. I guess absolute is the way to go.
My song seems to have got it's brain scrambled and the melody gets out of sync with the RealStyle part way through the song. I hope I can fix it by taking the percent changes out.

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#451673 - 01/16/18 11:37 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Exporting from band-in-a-box to a MID file [Re: Lesley55]
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Lesley,

I wonder if this strange behaviour arises from one or more tracks being frozen. (I thought that tempo stood outside of freezing but I might be wrong. It's also possible that absolute tempo stands outside of freezing but percentage tempo does not.)

To test these possibilitie....

1. Make bar setting changes using %.

2. Unfreeze any frozen tracks.

3. Regenerate song.

Now repeat the above except instead of using %, use absolute values.

Was the behaviour the same?

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#451721 - 01/17/18 05:58 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Exporting from band-in-a-box to a MID file [Re: Lesley55]
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Right; the percentage of change formula is the amount of change over the starting amount. After you change tempo, the starting amount differs.
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#451863 - 01/17/18 04:05 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Exporting from band-in-a-box to a MID file [Re: Lesley55]
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Is there a way to tell which RealStyles have RealCharts? Maybe a way to filter the list of RealStyles?

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#451874 - 01/17/18 04:49 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Exporting from band-in-a-box to a MID file [Re: Lesley55]
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Originally Posted By: Lesley55
Is there a way to tell which RealStyles have RealCharts? Maybe a way to filter the list of RealStyles?


RealTracks with Charts are indicated in the RealTracks Picker. You can also sort by column.

Also, if a RealTrack has an associated RealChart, it will have an underline (short or long) with its name at the top of the BiaB form (see my first answer to your original question in this thread).


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#451893 - 01/17/18 06:11 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Exporting from band-in-a-box to a MID file [Re: VideoTrack]
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Thanks, Video Track.

I don't seem to have a column labelled "Chart" in my table. But I notice one labelled "type".

The type is either R, RM or M. I guess the M's are midi. I selected a midi style (Country Piano - Country Ballad - S). I dragged the tracks over to the "MID" corner of the box in the upper left. then clicked on it to audition the file. Only the melody plays in the file.


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#451902 - 01/17/18 07:53 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Exporting from band-in-a-box to a MID file [Re: Lesley55]
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This is in the RealTracks picker, not the StylePicker:


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#452395 - 01/20/18 08:35 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Exporting from band-in-a-box to a MID file [Re: jazzmammal]
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Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
The Coyote Wavetable synth that is included with Biab along with the Sfzorando synth are both GM.
Just a minor nitpick, the Sforzando is absolutely not a GM based synth - unless the way you spelled it isn't a typo like I've presumed here and you are in fact talking about a different synth entirely, in which case you might be right.
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#459404 - 02/27/18 12:31 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Exporting from band-in-a-box to a MID file [Re: Lesley55]
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I missed this post. To clarify, the Sforzando that PG is including is preset with the HiQ sounds which use the GM convention so it plays with Biab seamlessly as if it is a GM synth.

I know there are several GM soundfonts around that load into the player and if you're using one of those then it's a GM synth. I think what you're saying is it's not locked in to being a GM synth, it depends on what type of soundbank you're loading into it.

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#459421 - 02/27/18 05:42 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Exporting from band-in-a-box to a MID file [Re: Lesley55]
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I'm not going to argue semantics with you (I refuse to play this game of always being right!), but I'd appreciate if you would at least refrain from telling others what they are 'trying to say'.
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