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#452127 - 01/18/18 07:10 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Is it worth going to an SSD drive? [Re: Teunis]
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In other words, it will not only be bigger, it will very likely be much faster.
Sometimes bigger means slower, in your case it'll likely be much faster for boot time, loading apps and other such functions when changing to SSD


Really, when you don’t know the answer, it’s ok not to post one.

With an SSD, bigger does not mean slower—ever.
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#452131 - 01/18/18 07:46 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Is it worth going to an SSD drive? [Re: Mike Halloran]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Halloran
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In other words, it will not only be bigger, it will very likely be much faster.
Sometimes bigger means slower, in your case it'll likely be much faster for boot time, loading apps and other such functions when changing to SSD


Really, when you don’t know the answer, it’s ok not to post one.

With an SSD, bigger does not mean slower—ever.

It’s unfortunate when quoting out of context might confuse the meaning. Taken in total, Rharv’s comments made perfect sense.

I think your point may be that SSDs come in different specs. Assuming the same manufacturer, quality and design, I agree the larger SSD will be faster. But that isn’t what Rharv was talking about.
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#452136 - 01/18/18 09:10 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Is it worth going to an SSD drive? [Re: Matt Finley]
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Hi, I got what Rharv meant and with his thoughts in mind and also Matts suggestions I changed my mind and upped the size of the SSD from 256G to 512G. With 256G I wasn't really gain a lot of space. With 512G I'll have headroom of over 50% in the short term. I have moved BB and RealBand back to the C drive in readiness.

Tomorrow for other reasons I won't need the PC for two weeks so the IT shop can have it.

Thanks again
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#452175 - 01/19/18 05:32 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Is it worth going to an SSD drive? [Re: Teunis]
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You will be amazed. Don’t forget, remind the shop to turn off Defrag on that SSD.
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#452222 - 01/19/18 10:13 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Is it worth going to an SSD drive? [Re: Teunis]
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Matt Don’t forget, remind the shop to turn off Defrag on that SSD.


So you do not defrag the ssd drives is that what you mean Matt.
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#452223 - 01/19/18 10:49 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Is it worth going to an SSD drive? [Re: Teunis]
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That is correct. Here’s the story.

SSD drives do not need to be defragged; that process relates to reorganizing data on a physical drive and has no relevance to solid state memory. In fact, defragging an SSD shortens its life.

When you install Windows on a new SSD, it knows not to defrag it but when you replace a boot hard drive with an SSD, it keeps auto defrag on! You have to change the setting.

Make sense now?
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#452227 - 01/19/18 11:07 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Is it worth going to an SSD drive? [Re: Matt Finley]
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Ooh, thanks for that! I’ll have to see how mine is set; I’ll get back to you…

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#452232 - 01/19/18 11:20 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Is it worth going to an SSD drive? [Re: Teunis]
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Richard, I last did this about a year ago and that’s the way Windows 10 worked then. I am assuming it’s the same now, but they may have fixed this omission.
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#452260 - 01/19/18 02:13 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Is it worth going to an SSD drive? [Re: Matt Finley]
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Hi Matt, I did a look on the issue of SSD defragmentation and is it required. A number say similar to you, however, some more recent articles say that Windows now handle SSD differently and "Trim" SSD. Windows recognises SSD as opposed to HDD and does not defrag in the traditional sense. See http://www.thewindowsclub.com/defragmentation-of-ssd-windows or https://www.hanselman.com/blog/TheRealAndCompleteStoryDoesWindowsDefragmentYourSSD.aspx several other articles are similar.

Just a thought

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#452281 - 01/19/18 05:11 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Is it worth going to an SSD drive? [Re: Teunis]
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Thanks, I know this. The Trim command, when supported, had to be run manually on the early SSD drives (I had some). Yes, Trim is good now and automated. That article is four years old.

Defrag is still not recommended on an SSD. And if you are replacing a hard drive with an SSD, Defrag is still turned on. That’s the point; it’s about swapping drive types.
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