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#451790 - 01/17/18 12:11 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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Originally Posted By: furry
Sorry Matt, I can't as I've no sound from biab to the keyboard. I also use reason and east west play. They're both fine as stand alones but not in biab


I think the "I've no sound from biab to the keyboard" is a typo. I think you meant to your Behringer as the keyboard has not sounds, i.e. it is a MIDI controller.

Have you checked your channels? Maybe something is messed up there, especially with the thru channel. It sounds like a patching problem, that is if BiaB is OK. Maybe you got a bad BiaB DL, CD, or HD?
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#451802 - 01/17/18 12:34 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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Graham,

You won't easily get any sound through your keyboard if you are using Sampletank. It's not a general midi synth.

Each time you load BIAB, you need to load a sound in Sampletank on the same channel as the thru channel so that the keyboard has something to work with (channel 5). Do you do this? Sampletank will not do it by itself. If you don't set this up with each start-up of BIAB, it's not a surprise that you keyboard doesn't work.

For testing purposes this is what you need to do...

1. change your VSTi/DXi synth to Coyote WT

2. set MIDI out to Microsoft GS Wavetable

3. under "Audio | Audio Driver/Settings" set the driver to MME

Once you have BIAB working with the above settings, then you can start changing them one by one so as to work out which step creates the issues you're experiencing.

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#451838 - 01/17/18 01:47 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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Yep usually ch 1 for the keyboard to get sound from any of the soft synths
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#451841 - 01/17/18 02:02 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: David Snyder]
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Originally Posted By: David Snyder

I have said this before, but I will say it again, because I think it is relevant and both funny or sad, not sure which.

One of my neighbors is like a surrogate grandpa and built mainframes at IBM way back in the day. I mean, the original day. He is my computer guy and tells me he can build a PC in his sleep blindfolded--and he can. He has all of my stuff backed up too.

He told me that Windows 7 is a vastly superior operating system to Windows 10 and that Windows 10 is the equivalent of a smart phone operating system, side by side.

I have been told by others that the switch was made so that you will gradually no longer own your own computer, or any of your software, and will have control over nothing, except the money you spend on monthly licenses and such, of which they will get a cut of course. And everything will be moving to the cloud, where they will have complete control over it and access to it.

Not sure if this is right or not, but I have heard some very interesting things from my surrogate grandpa and he does seem to know his way around a computer blindfolded pretty good--and he did build those mainframes.

I love old school guys like that.


David I am a IT Manager for an oil services company here in Edmonton and have been working with computers since 1979. I totally agree with what your neighbour said. Windows is moving to a subscription based "update" process to ensure a steady cash flow. Most software companies are doing this as will be the norm in the future. It is also however not a good idea to stop the patches as there are so many Zero Day viruses coming out each day and these are not script kiddies. This is organized crime behind them.. Our current hardware is going to be left behind fast as far as the drivers go as the hardware manufacturers really want to sell you new equipment as well. It is a good idea to backup your music on an external hardrive or off site.
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#451870 - 01/17/18 04:35 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: Scott C]
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ScottC said "It is also however not a good idea to stop the patches as there are so many Zero Day viruses coming out each day and these are not script kiddies. This is organized crime behind them.."

Well said but sadly I feel this is lost on a lot of people.

Tony
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#452010 - 01/18/18 10:36 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: Teunis]
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Oh yeah. I've called them the head in the sand "if it ain't broke, don't fix it crowd". Some old cliché's are still true but not this one when it comes to computers.

There's another thread here in the S.O.S forum talking about computer security, the best AV software to use and other techniques. I'm a tax pro and need to do 24 hours of continuing ed every year for my license. Every year there are courses in this because of client tax data that must be protected. I go to an annual seminar in Vegas and part of it is a talk by an IRS CID person talking about the "dark web" and investigations they've been involved in.

I'm not an expert in this area, I'm just an educated end user but here's what I'm told:

1. USE WIN10 because it's much more secure than older versions. Also, newer CPU's are more secure than older ones. I don't want to hear all the talk about how you can patch 7 or Vista or XP. If the system is online, this is what pro's in the field tell me. If you're happy with an antique 13 year old XP machine that never goes online, fine.

2. DO THE AUTOMATIC UPDATES. If it happens to occasionally mess with something you're doing just deal with it. It's not that hard.

3. NEVER use easy to hack passwords for ANYTHING. I use Avast Premier which includes their password manager. It will analyze all your passwords and give you a weak, good, strong or very strong score. Some of my very clever 10-12 character passwords I was quite proud of scored weak while others were strong. You gotta pay attention to this stuff.

4. DON'T BELIEVE that Mac's are somehow immune. The only reason they've been relatively safer than Windows is market share. The hackers go after volume but Apples market share has been growing so the hackers are paying more attention to Macs now. It's just as easy to hack the Mac OS as it is Windows.

FWIW.

Bob
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#452019 - 01/18/18 11:02 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: jazzmammal]
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Bob, I agree. On #2 I took a big hit by not updating my Win 10 music computer for over a year, i.e. it was off-line. I now have to go on-line to update a lot of software and updating Win 10 was a nightmare. Everything is now under control.

But as you mentioned "If it happens to occasionally mess with something you're doing just deal with it. It's not that hard" is what a lot of us are complaining about. I am in charge of six Win 10 computer here not counting my music computer, and I have had to fix broken audio drivers, printer drivers, rearranged icons and managed USB ports. None of these computers have been tweaked in any way; they are as MS put them. I lot of people around here are complaining about this also.

About #4 I have a friend who dumped PCs and went to a Mac because he was tired of messing with Win 10. After he transferred all of his data he got attacked and lost everything. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence when in fact it rarely is.

{edit} replaced b*tch*ng with complaining. Note the eyes have it!


Edited by MarioD (01/18/18 11:04 AM)
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#452113 - 01/18/18 05:31 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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The Windows stuff makes an interesting Off-topic discussion, but let’s not clutter up trying to help Graham.
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#452154 - 01/19/18 03:47 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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I don't mind Matt. There was a HUGE 4gb update last night ( windows 10 creator ) PC took ages to boot up this morning too
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#452176 - 01/19/18 05:35 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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I’m glad you don’t mind. This is good stuff about Windows, but people won’t see it here. And it makes it harder to wade through the thread and fix your problem. But if you’re happy, that’s fine.
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#452183 - 01/19/18 06:01 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: Matt Finley]
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I apologize for my part. I'm one of those guys that sees a message and responds to it without even thinking about what forum I am in. I will try to mend my ways but just remember I am old and learning new tricks takes a lot longer then a puppy does when they learn new tricks.
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#452195 - 01/19/18 07:34 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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Mario, sounds like we both have ageditis grin
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#452216 - 01/19/18 09:12 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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Originally Posted By: furry
Mario, sounds like we both have ageditis grin


No Graham, it is called CRS, i.e Can't Remember Stuff.

PS - that is the politically correct version of the disease wink
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#452788 - 01/22/18 02:05 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Sound gone wonky since windows update [Re: furry]
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Formatted C drive last night so hopefully all problems now sorted
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