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I loaded the 2018 PlusPak today, along with the Extra Styles Pak 4 onto Windows 7 on a laptop. Everything’s present and works fine except for one problem----slow cursor response during song play---i.e., the black cursor that highlights the chords, while the song is playing. It’s about a beat behind. Any cure for that? Also, is that cursor hard-wired into the program, or could that be disabled, if one wanted to? I just need it play on the beat.
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Hi Larry
Most annoying when it happens
I had the same experience so I went back to basics
1.close any open programs including BB
2.do a HD Disc clean
3.do a HD defrag
4 complete close down of the computer and reboot
In my case it solved the problem - worth a try
jazzman
Last edited by Jazzman; 01/22/18 06:31 AM.
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Larry,
Jazzman's advice is very good.
A couple of years ago, my BIAB started going slow and a degfrag and restart got everything back in order again. Since then I've been regularly defragging.
One other thing that you can try before that is that BIAB 2018 installs the new WAS audio driver as the default.
Under "Audio | Audio Drivers/Settings" try changing the WAS driver to MME. That might have an impact.
Regards, Noel
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Hi Noel
Also agree about the WAS driver - didn't realise it was the default at first in bb 2018 but kept getting random glitches so I changed back to MME
jazzman
Last edited by Jazzman; 01/22/18 02:44 AM.
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Solid State Drive Warning?
I have heard from reliable sources, including drive manufacturer's and defrag software manufacturer's, that you should not defrag a SSD drive as it will shorten the lifespan by the many writes and rewrites that will be going on during the defrag.
This does make sense to me since read and write cycles are not dependent on mechanical parts to seek out data on moving platters.
I have my BIAB on an SSD drive and am hesitant to defrag because of the warnings.
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More recent SSD drives have the Trim command which replaces the function of Defrag. Do not defrag an SSD.
I missed where it was stated that an SSD is involved here; I need to go back and read the thread again. Even so, I can think of several more likely causes.
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Many thanks for the suggestions. Changing to MME did the trick. I first cleaned the C: drive and defragmented. Nothing changed with that. Others might be aware of this issue (slow cursor), if they move to 2018. I amazed myself in that I was able to change the driver, or whatever it’s called, since I rarely go beyond the surface of BIAB. I simply play songs and enjoy the many styles.
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Solid State Drive Warning?
I have heard from reliable sources, including drive manufacturer's and defrag software manufacturer's, that you should not defrag a SSD drive as it will shorten the lifespan by the many writes and rewrites that will be going on during the defrag.
This does make sense to me since read and write cycles are not dependent on mechanical parts to seek out data on moving platters.
I have my BIAB on an SSD drive and am hesitant to defrag because of the warnings. Modern, third party defrag utility programs analyze a drive prior to doing anything. When the program realizes the drive is a SSD the program will automatically use the trim function instead of defrag. I don't know if the built in defrag utility used in Win 8, 8.1 or 10 work this way or not but the defrag in Win 7 does not. +++ THIS +++ defrag by Auslogic is highly rated and automatically recognizes SSDs. Note first use may take a few hours if you both optimize and defrag the drive. It's worth the time as doing both will noticeably decrease boot up time.
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I googled my slow cursor problem on Band in a Box 2021 and I found your thread in the forum. Just to let you know I'm after changing the MME driver back to WAS and this has definitely solved my slow cursor problem. Thanks, Dermot Mc Mahon
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I'm glad the problem was solved.
One comment about SSD drives and Defrag. While Windows does recognize a SSD and will not defrag it, there is one case I created myself where Windows was confused: I build all my own PCs and one time I replaced the boot hard drive with a SSD. Windows would have been very happy to defrag it.
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