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#454792 - 01/30/18 09:00 PM [User Showcase] Re: Forever's Not As Long As It Used To Be - (NEW) [Re: floyd jane]
44kfl Offline

Registered: 11/19/12
Posts: 1402
Loc: Middletown, PA.
great one,

love the write, flows effortlessly

nice bridge



#454851 - 01/31/18 05:07 AM [User Showcase] Re: Forever's Not As Long As It Used To Be - (NEW) [Re: Will Rockwell]
floyd jane Offline

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 5812
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: Will Rockwell
Great song, the idea and lyrics are compelling. You should be able to sell this

Will - it is nice of you to drop in for a listen and comment... Selling songs these days is a monumental effort... Thanks.
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#454872 - 01/31/18 07:26 AM [User Showcase] Re: Forever's Not As Long As It Used To Be - (NEW) [Re: floyd jane]
Deryk - PG Music Offline
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Registered: 02/15/17
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Wow - you nailed this! From the simple structure, to the passionate vocals, to the off kilter drums - this is a truly unique, and just a great song. It’s an ear worm in the most sophisticated way, if that makes any sense. I don’t listen to a lot of country - but this sort of style within the genre is what really draws me in. It sounds sincere and heartfelt, both in the music and the vocal delivery. The lyrics are the cherry on top.

You outdid yourself - thanks so much for sharing this smile

#455019 - 01/31/18 11:47 PM [User Showcase] Re: Forever's Not As Long As It Used To Be - (NEW) [Re: floyd jane]
Noel96 Offline

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 13055
Loc: Australia

I found this version of your song a wonderful listen.

The mood that you’ve managed to create is one of reflection edged with sentimentality and wistfulness. At no time, though, do these words become weighted with either regret or bitterness. The topic matter has certainly been handled with adept penmanship.

The lyrics, your singing, the melody and the arrangement all work together like the sections of a classical orchestra and create a really fine and very satisfying overall musical journey for the listener. The clarity of the final mix is outstanding. There is no hint of muddiness nor harmonic ambiguity anywhere. At the end of the song, I simply sat there pondering everything you’d sung and how you'd presented it. That’s a wonderful testament to your abilities.

The singer/songwriter feel that, at least to my ears, seems to be the foundation stone upon which the presentation is built is an extraordinarily good choice for the production. It boosts the song's ability to resonate with sincerity and honesty.

Through my speakers, everything that I heard was

Not so long ago, I was reading through an article on literary terminology and one of the topics that I’d just finished reading when I first listened to your song was about Connotation. This is to do with choosing words appropriately to help amplify meaning of surrounding words. As I’m sure anyone who reads this can appreciate, this is the proverbial ‘bread and butter’ of lyric writing. Maybe it was because of my reading that when I heard “Everlasting red” in the first verse, light bulbs flashed inside my mind. This is SUCH a good use of connotation.

The classic image of names in a red lipstick heart; not just an ordinary red lipstick heart, though. This shade is called ‘everlasting’ red! What a skilled play on words, too! The sense of ‘everlasting’ as the lipstick is permanent as well as the love that the heart conveys. Most importantly, though, "everlasting" is the pivot to "forever" and amplifies and foreshadows the hook so incredibly well. However I look at it, this is connotation at its very, very best.

Once again, I have thoroughly enjoyed the musical and lyrical journey on which you have taken me. Thank you.

All the best,

#455301 - 02/02/18 12:15 PM [User Showcase] Re: Forever's Not As Long As It Used To Be - (NEW) [Re: Al-David]
floyd jane Offline

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 5812
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: Al-David

Listened to all 3 versions. I think your latest (slower) version gives the music and lyric much better prosody - perfect match. This just so easy to listen to. A lot of people are gifted with talent - but few use that talent as effectively and creatively as you do. Virtually every one of your songs is an education in music creation and performance.


Alan - I really appreciate that...
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#455307 - 02/02/18 12:48 PM [User Showcase] Re: Forever's Not As Long As It Used To Be - (NEW) [Re: floyd jane]
90 dB Offline

Registered: 04/20/10
Posts: 4607
Loc: Florida
Two thumbs up from me.


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#455394 - 02/03/18 06:08 AM [User Showcase] Re: Forever's Not As Long As It Used To Be - (NEW) [Re: HearToLearn]
floyd jane Offline

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 5812
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: HearToLearn
NO!!!!! Just NO!!! You can't be THIS good! Pick ONE thing and master it. Don't pick them ALL all master them! It's just not right!

So the forum starts a "many takes on the same lyric" idea, and you feel the need to just do your own version with JUST you? Really? lol

This is a prime example of how having a good lyric can both stand the test of time; but also work in many different feels.

I heard your original and thought "this sounds like a hit." It would have been that at that time; but also stills sound current. Great job!

Then I heard the "New Country" version, and thought..."oh wow. This could so work RIGHT NOW." No reference about it being from another time, just right now. Great job!

THEN I heard the slowed down version and thought "THIS is a great song." Man, talk about nailing it. SOOOOO good! The feel of this is incredible and completely gives you, I believe, the right emotion of the lyric. Just WOW!

so tell me where does the end of forever start

Man....what a GREAT line! It's not just the actual lyric, but the build up to it AND where it is placed in the song. Powerful! That.Line.Hit.Me.

I haven't been in the actual situation of your song except for your song. What does that tell ya? That you can bring someone to somewhere they've never been with a craft. Incredible!

I think you need to go play golf for a while. wink Translation : Keep 'em comin'. I can't get enough!

How could one not like THAT review? Thanks, Caaron. It's too cold for golf... smile
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#455440 - 02/03/18 09:40 AM [User Showcase] Re: Forever's Not As Long As It Used To Be - (NEW) [Re: floyd jane]
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There’s so much packed in a relatively short lyric. A very memorable hook supported by rich imagery, e.g., “lipstick heart.”

Janice said the entire song reminds her of James Taylor. She further says it reminds her of his album “Gorilla.”

It’s remarkable how different the latest version is and how well it speaks the same lyric - heartbreaking still...even more so.

This version really "rips the paint right off of your heart" as Randy used to say.

Never grow's a trap.
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#455551 - 02/04/18 06:12 AM [User Showcase] Re: Forever's Not As Long As It Used To Be - (NEW) [Re: Robertkc]
floyd jane Offline

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 5812
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: beatmaster
Both are well produced, performed and styled,productions...But, More of a cowboy YYYEEEEEHAAA !!!! in the older one.

beatmaster - thanks for stopping by...

Originally Posted By: Robertkc
I like the reflective lyrics and they really shine in the new version (great title by the way).
The percussion works very well - somehow you`ve made bongos sound "modern" and bringing in those pedal steel/cello "sweeteners" near the end is so nicely done.
Well worth the remodel!


Thanks, Robert. Appreciate that...
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#455630 - 02/04/18 01:19 PM [User Showcase] Re: Forever's Not As Long As It Used To Be - (NEW) [Re: PeterF]
floyd jane Offline

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 5812
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: PeterF

Enjoyed all 3 versions - enjoyable hearing the songs evolution.Great set of lyrics, liked the percussion track in the latest version, and the the slower pace does make the lyric sound more "sincere?".
Very nicely done.


Peter - I just noticed that I "jumped over" your comments. It was not intentional by any means, but I apologized, nonetheless (makes me wonder if I've done that before and offended someone... there seem to be a number of people here who act as though I have offended them somehow - how, I have no idea...).

Thanks for taking the time to listen to all 3 versions - though, I did not intend that at the start... I agree that the slow-down gave the lyric a bit more "heart" - one of the reasons I re-did it... Thanks, again..
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#455637 - 02/04/18 01:50 PM [User Showcase] Re: Forever's Not As Long As It Used To Be - (NEW) [Re: floyd jane]
MarioD Offline

Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 10890
Loc: Hamlin NY
Another winner!

I loved the bongo country combination. Excellent work!

This is a keeper.
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#455751 - 02/05/18 08:37 AM [User Showcase] Re: Forever's Not As Long As It Used To Be - (NEW) [Re: gruverider]
floyd jane Offline

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 5812
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: tommyad
Tempo is everything regarding the feel of a song. As you once said even a few bpm's makes a difference. This is a big jump in tempo and the results showcase a huge difference in the conveyance of the lyric. Way mo betta than the previous versions. Good use of the cello and a light sprinkling of steel in all the right spots. Nicely done in all writing, production and performance aspects. The best part and a real lesson to us all is how you took a good song and elevated it to a really good song, Tom

Did I say that?... Thanks, Tom - appreciate the listen...

Originally Posted By: gruverider
Really good write. Powerful word play. Creative use of percussion to set the mood. And smooth flow in the arrangement.

great song!

Lawrence - thanks - coming from you that sits well... smile
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#455930 - 02/06/18 03:49 AM [User Showcase] Re: Forever's Not As Long As It Used To Be - (NEW) [Re: rsdean]
floyd jane Offline

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 5812
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: rsdean

I don't remember this song, but I love what you have done here... Your delivery as always is flawless and the production is so crisp. The congas are an excellent touch for the drums.

Again, loved it.


Appreciate that, Bob...
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#455952 - 02/06/18 05:49 AM [User Showcase] Re: Forever's Not As Long As It Used To Be - (NEW) [Re: floyd jane]
Icelander Offline

Registered: 11/11/12
Posts: 2817
Brilliant rendition! Those congas were a real stroke of genius cool
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#456162 - 02/07/18 05:00 AM [User Showcase] Re: Forever's Not As Long As It Used To Be - (NEW) [Re: RnAM]
floyd jane Offline

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 5812
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: animarorecords
Hello, floyd

I never heard the original but this one is really nice!
Conga is very effective.
Your vocal is very pleasant as usual.

It is fun to recreate old works.
I also often remake my old works.
Because the style of the song does not overlap with the current myself.
But it is difficult to judge which one is better by myself.
So I also post it to this forum.

Enjoyed my listen a lot.

Best regards.

Shigeki Adachi

Shigeki Adachi - Thanks for that nice comment...

Originally Posted By: RnAM
That must have been just before we joined here.
Love the song, but a little bit more verb on the vocal would have been nice, but that's just our opinion smile

Rob and Anne-Marie

Thanks, y'all. A bit more reverb could work. But I do like that the amount here makes the vocal a little more "intimate"...
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