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#455125 - 02/01/18 10:54 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] 255 Bar Limit Warning required
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BiaB still has a 255 bar limit that for some unknown reason has continued since it's DOS / Atari days.

If a track plays at double-time, that 255 bar limit can be reached even is the song itself is less than 255 bars. At that point, the specific instrument simply stops playing.

An improvement would be to provide a warning that the track is truncated, and why.

(A better improvement would be to remove the 255 bar limit.)

Yes?
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#455127 - 02/01/18 11:01 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: 255 Bar Limit Warning required [Re: VideoTrack]
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Absolutely.

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#455142 - 02/01/18 12:11 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: 255 Bar Limit Warning required [Re: VideoTrack]
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The "better improvement" would be the way to go.
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#455160 - 02/01/18 01:59 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: 255 Bar Limit Warning required [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
BiaB still has a 255 bar limit that for some unknown reason has continued since it's DOS / Atari days.


We have several limits of this kind in BIAB ; another one I remember is the max of 255 harmonies in a *.har file.

Nowadays in 2018 we have trouble to accept this situation because these limitations are of another age...
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#455181 - 02/01/18 03:55 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: 255 Bar Limit Warning required [Re: VideoTrack]
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Yep, 2 to the 8th power. 0 through 255. Common on the early computers.
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#455183 - 02/01/18 04:00 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: 255 Bar Limit Warning required [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1

See +++ this post +++.

Here is a summary of an issue a user encountered. The user creates a polka at 190 BPM. The RealTracks #541 bass that is in the style the user selected is hard coded to play at double time in the style so the bass Realtracks runs into the 255 bar limit at bar 127.
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#455184 - 02/01/18 04:03 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: 255 Bar Limit Warning required [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle
so the bass Realtracks runs into the 255 bar limit at bar 127.

Don't you know it! This came as quite a surprise. I have only recently started composing extensively with different timebase settings on my RealTracks and RealDrums. Although I haven't seen this happen yet, I am alert now that, if we are correct, this restriction could be worse than before.
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#455194 - 02/01/18 04:51 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: 255 Bar Limit Warning required [Re: Matt Finley]
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It's pretty obvious to me that an unsigned byte has been set aside to store the number of bars. This is probably done in many places. That was OK when systems had only a few M'bytes of memory. Surely that couldn't be so restrictive not to be able to be changed.

Maybe Blake could help?
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#459047 - 02/24/18 11:04 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: 255 Bar Limit too small for Wiener Walses [Re: jford]
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smile Just bumped into this 255 bar limit as I tested an imported midi-track of Channel 1 - An Der Schönen Blauen Donau. It is not a life threatening issue, but I would like the limit to be more like 512 or 1024 as soon as possible!!

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#459054 - 02/24/18 11:26 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: 255 Bar Limit too small for Wiener Walses [Re: Hakans Evergreen]
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Welcome to the forum.

It would be ideal if there was be no upper limit. The song should be able to play for as long as there are resources available.

Thanks for your vote of support. Sorry you found a limitation so soon.
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