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#455056 - 02/01/18 05:58 AM [Beginners Forum] Realtrack stopping mid-song
drhahn Offline
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I reported this problem four days ago and haven't gotten a response yet. I tried to build a song using BERLIN.STY Berlin Traditional Polka. My song contains 188 measures, and has drums, guitar, accordion (which I mute), and bass. The bass track is #541, Bass, Electric, Pop Sw 190. Every time I play or attempt to regenerate this song, the bass stops playing at measure 127. All other instruments continue. I have tried regenerating just that track, and changing the instruments. Other instruments that I substitute also stop at measure 127. Any ideas about what may have happened?

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#455067 - 02/01/18 06:21 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Realtrack stopping mid-song [Re: drhahn]
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It's very possible that you do not have the entire track selected. This caught me more than one time when I first got started.

The solution: scroll to the end of the song to the track ends. Some are longer than others. Select the longest track. Click on SELECT ENTIRE TRACK and you should see it highlighted from the start to the end....

NOW.... go in and select the real track you want to generate. It should generate to the full length.
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#455070 - 02/01/18 06:25 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Realtrack stopping mid-song [Re: drhahn]
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I haven’t experienced this, nor read a problem statement about a dropout so specific. It’s rare but possible this song file is corrupted. I suggest recreating the song.

While it might take them a bit, it would still be worth freezing then sending the song file to support@pgmusic.com especially if a recreated song with the same instruments works.
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#455072 - 02/01/18 06:27 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Realtrack stopping mid-song [Re: drhahn]
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Herb, I think you are talking about RealBand and I’m assuming BIAB. Drhahn, it would help to know which.
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#455079 - 02/01/18 07:06 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Realtrack stopping mid-song [Re: Matt Finley]
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Thank you both. Sorry, I did mean Band in a Box.

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#455085 - 02/01/18 07:46 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Realtrack stopping mid-song [Re: drhahn]
drhahn Offline
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Matt, I tried recreating the song by opening a new project with the same style and re-entering all my chords. The same thing happened. At Measure 127 my bass player quit and left the studio. Drummer and guitar player continued playing beautifully until the end of the song! I will try contacting support to see if they can help.

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#455088 - 02/01/18 07:56 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Realtrack stopping mid-song [Re: drhahn]
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Whoa.

I understand that any instrument you put into the bass slot does the same thing, so it's not just bass RealTrack#541.

Strange.

How about the tempo of the song? Are you using instruments within, say, 10% of their recommended tempos?

Do you have a place on the Internet, like Dropbox (free) to post this song? I would like to try it. Freeze all tracks first. You can post the link here and several of us can try the song.

Unless it's a polka (kidding).
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#455097 - 02/01/18 08:27 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Realtrack stopping mid-song [Re: drhahn]
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Sounds like your bass player decided to go to the bar and get a drink mid-song. smile

I would definitely contact PGMusic, or post your file (Dropbox or similar) so others here can take a look at it.

And of course the usual caveats - are you using the latest patch build? Have you done a reset to defaults? Are you running BIAB as administrator? Have you made sure RealTrack Picker, RealDrum Picker, and StylePicker databases have been rebuilt? Etc.
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#455107 - 02/01/18 09:10 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Realtrack stopping mid-song [Re: jford]
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Originally Posted By: jford
Sounds like your bass player decided to go to the bar and get a drink mid-song. smile
I would definitely fire him/her except it sounds like he/she is at least consistent.
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#455116 - 02/01/18 10:35 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Realtrack stopping mid-song [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Originally Posted By: jford
Sounds like your bass player decided to go to the bar and get a drink mid-song. smile
I would definitely fire him/her except it sounds like he/she is at least consistent.


I've actually been in a band where that happened. The guy was a guitar/fiddle player and was playing the fiddle. He simply put it down and went to the bar and bought and drank a beer.

His explanation was, he was thirsty. If it had been because he really needed to visit the bathroom.... ok, we could have understood that but, nope..... he "needed" a beer. He was fired.

Once you've played in a few bands, you've seen and experienced practically everything.


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#455117 - 02/01/18 10:36 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Realtrack stopping mid-song [Re: drhahn]
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Specifically which version and build do you have of Band-in-a-Box (Help - About)? If you remove one of the other RealTracks, does the bass then play throughout the song?
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#455118 - 02/01/18 10:37 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Realtrack stopping mid-song [Re: drhahn]
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The problem is that the Bass plays at Double-Time. BiaB has a 255 bar limit.

At bar 127 (x2) the bass player has played 254 bars. Show's over for that guy.

BiaB should show a warning if the bar limit is reached. I'm going back to the wishlist.

Also, there doesn't seem to be a way to change the time-base, even when I selected a different Bass Instrument for the track.



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#455124 - 02/01/18 10:49 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Realtrack stopping mid-song [Re: drhahn]
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Well spotted Trev!

Trev, the timebase is set through Stylemaker.

Have a look at the below post of mine regarding Stylemaker and setting permanent RT settings.

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=453449#Post453488

Even though my post deals with "Held", it also applies to any other RT setting that can be set in Realtrack Picker.
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#455131 - 02/01/18 11:08 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Realtrack stopping mid-song [Re: Noel96]
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Thanks Noel for the excellent tip.

I actually recreated the O/P's song as he had described, and it stopped playing bass for me too. Then I knew it was repeatable, and looking further it was then I spotted the Double-Time setting.

Thanks for the tip on the Style Maker. I changed it to normal time, saved as a new Style (added a 0 to the name) and it's now working - except the bass now sounds like a very lazy polka player cry
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#455138 - 02/01/18 11:50 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Realtrack stopping mid-song [Re: VideoTrack]
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Thanks for looking into this. It sounds like I am limited by the double-time in that particular style. I guess I will have to use this style without the bass, and use my accordion to provide the bass during performance. Will I have to look for bass tracks without the double-time, or is there should I look for a different style? Since I am rather new, is there a way that PG can change or improve the functionality of the software for issues like mine? For reference, I am using BIAB 2018 build 510. By the way, the accordion track sounded just awful at playback, which is why I muted. Is this because I am trying to play a 2/4 polka? Most polkas are not written in 4/4 time. My arranger midi modules do a much better job generating accordion accompaniment than this style. I know I have a lot to learn, so I will be patient. Thanks again for all the help, everyone.

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