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#455941 - 02/06/18 05:12 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Loading RT 2438 causes static bursts - FIXED
fiddler2007 Offline
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Loading RealTrack 2438 (clawhammer banjo) creates bursts of static on the RT track involved, both with BIAB 2018 v510 and RealBand v4. It appears at different spots after generating again, see below, and starts and ends at a bar change; usually the noise is about 1 to 3 bars long ....

Now i wonder if anyone else has the same issue with it? I copied the RT again from my BIAB 2018 drive with the original motherload to my PC; same story ... Matt already suggested it could be from an unregistered plugin, but i have no plugins loaded other than Halion Sonic 3, which is registered. And i have had no problems so far with other RTs. I mailed support, no reply yet. F


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#455945 - 02/06/18 05:24 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Loading RT 2438 causes static bursts [Re: fiddler2007]
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Yikes. You can see, that will sound bad. ‘Drive you out of the room’ bad.

Is it the same blast of white noise as in that other thread? If not, could you record a sample of the sound and post a link?
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#455946 - 02/06/18 05:26 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Loading RT 2438 causes static bursts [Re: fiddler2007]
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I couldn't repeat that. I tried a 3 choruses of 12 bars. I can solo as well OK.

Have you solo'd the track to make sure that's where it's definitely coming from?

Regenerated the track OK or same?

Other unregistered VSTi's etc can do this, but their interruptions are more regular that your example.
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#455951 - 02/06/18 05:48 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Loading RT 2438 causes static bursts [Re: VideoTrack]
fiddler2007 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Is it the same blast of white noise as in that other thread? If not, could you record a sample of the sound and post a link?
Yep .. static
Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
I couldn't repeat that. I tried a 3 choruses of 12 bars. I can solo as well OK.
Thank You Sir!; I am jealous ...

Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Have you solo'd the track to make sure that's where it's definitely coming from?
Yep, it also follows the L/R panning settings both in BIAB and Realband ...

Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Regenerated the track OK or same?
Yep, static appears on different places though after re-generating, and loading the RT in another static free song gives the same result with this 2438 RT again.

Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Other unregistered VSTi's etc can do this, but their interruptions are more regular that your example.
Exactly my thoughts. And to boot: this static starts exactly at a bar's start, and ends at a bar's end ... So i was thinking one of the accompanying bt1 files has a problem, and maybe one of you can post your healthy bt1s zipped together somewhere, dropbox?; they're rather small, called ban341.bt1 to ban365.bt1, in folder RealTracks\Banjo, Clawhammer, Rhythm HipFolk Sw16 85.

I was expecting a PM mail from PGsupport with such a solution by now .... Andrew or Kent, you there? -F


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#456230 - 02/07/18 09:39 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Loading RT 2438 causes static bursts [Re: fiddler2007]
Andrew - PG Music Offline
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Hello fiddler,
With Band-in-a-Box closed, go to \bb\Preferences, and rename the file VSTPluginList.ini to VSTPluginList_old.ini.

Now run Band-in-a-Box and see if the same thing happens.


Edited by Andrew - PG Music (02/07/18 09:40 AM)
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#456352 - 02/07/18 06:32 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Loading RT 2438 causes static bursts [Re: Andrew - PG Music]
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HI Andrew. Makes no difference, did that with all the VST, VSTi, DX, DXi .INI files too. Rebooted also.
I checked .INI file's contents, manually removed lines referring to some plugins i no longer use with Notepad ... same story. I really think it must be related to an error in a .bt1 file, as the static starting point and end coincides with bar start/end, and it seems happening ONLY with the RT mentioned above. Re-generating makes the static appear at different spots. Besides the static appears on and off, sometimes half a song plays without it, and there is no regular time interval as such. AND also the same happens with this songfile in REALBAND v4

PS1) can you maybe send me a link that i can download ban341.bt1 to ban365.bt1 to see if that resolves matters?
Or download mine zipped together here for a checkup: bt1 files (folder Banjo, Clawhammer, Rhythm HipFolk Sw16 85)

PS2) the songfile is set to 2/4 at every beat, with some 1/4, and 3/4 bars inserted at verse endings etc, however stye static appears randomly it seems, not at beat count changing bars necessarily. -F

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#456470 - 02/08/18 10:30 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Loading RT 2438 causes static bursts [Re: fiddler2007]
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I don't see how could a bt1 file could cause this, but perhaps there is a corrupt audio file. I'm sending you a link for the original audio files.
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#456482 - 02/08/18 12:05 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Loading RT 2438 causes static bursts [Re: Andrew - PG Music]
fiddler2007 Offline
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Gracias ... fixed .... F

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#456487 - 02/08/18 12:37 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Loading RT 2438 causes static bursts [Re: fiddler2007]
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So we know: the fix was that your copy of a particular RealTrack was corrupted?
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#456488 - 02/08/18 12:40 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Loading RT 2438 causes static bursts [Re: Matt Finley]
fiddler2007 Offline
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Yep, a file on the original BIAB drive was the culprit; Andrew sent me a replacement WAV he thought was the cause, eureka ... Thanks all. - F

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