Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
You need to be logged in to post on the forum
Topic Options
Index
#456540 - 02/08/18 08:03 PM [RealBand] Cakewalk TTS-1
jford Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/20/00
Posts: 10173
Loc: Pensacola, Florida
This just started for me (it worked fine last week when I recorded a song I was working on).

If I try to select Cakewalk TTS-1 as my default synth, I get an error message saying:

"Sorry, RealBand cannot make connection with "Cakewalk TTS-1"

and when I click OK, I get another message box:

"Error loading the synth into the default slot."

However, if load the Coyote WT or the Coyote Forte, everything works just fine.

Great, so I figured there was something wrong with TTS-1 (32-bit), so I reloaded it (I used Music Creator to do so, because there isn't just an install program for TTS-1).

I then tested TTS-1 in Music Creator, as well as in Reaper, and it worked just fine there. But in RealBand, I get the two error boxes.

I'm also getting the same thing in PowerTracks 2017.

I'll play around with it some more, but it's really weird and I've never had a problem using TTS-1 in, I don't know, a decade or so. Coyote also works fine in PowerTracks.
_________________________
John

HP Win10Pro-64, 8GB
ASUS Win10Pro-64, 16GB
HP Win7Pro-64, 8GB

H/W-Behringer U-Phoria UMC404HD, Casio Kbds
S/W-BB/RB2018/Sonar/Reaper/Studio One/Samplitude/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Noteworthy/NI Komplete/Halion/Garritan/IK
Web-http://www.sus4chord.com

Top
#456545 - 02/08/18 09:12 PM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: jford]
Noel96 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 12614
Loc: Australia
John,

TTS-1 is working ok for me. I'm testing the latest build right now.

Regards,
Noel
_________________________
LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS


Top
#456581 - 02/09/18 03:45 AM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: Noel96]
Bob Calver Offline
Apprentice

Registered: 09/21/01
Posts: 250
Loc: UK
If I read the PG Music 'dare to compare' site right, Cakewalk TTS-1 is the same as the Edirol Hypercanvas.

Is there an up to date version available anywhere? I have a curious situation where I have to load an update then load the main cd. It works but its clunky and I wondered if there is an alternative. For some tracks I prefer it to Coyote Forte.

On my version one of the kick drums is not responsive to velocity changes. Is the TTS-1?

Top
#456585 - 02/09/18 04:37 AM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: jford]
Mike Head Offline
Apprentice

Registered: 12/10/15
Posts: 270
Hi John

That’s a tricky one
Is it possible that you have some how moved tts1 to a different location /path since you last scanned for plug ins ,
By accident maybe by dragging the mouse.
Just a thought
Mike
ps. I guess not if it shows up as an available synth but just not load.



Edited by Mike Head (02/09/18 04:43 AM)
_________________________
BIAB 2018,Ultra Plus, Asus N55S, W7/64 , Akai EIE pro,
Yamaha Clavinova CVP405,XG Works,CoolsoftVirt.MidiSynth
Novatation Impulse61 Ctr kbd, Ableton live 8 lite, Sona 8.3
Magix Music Maker2014, NI Kontakt5 + VSTs

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/mikesmusic/


Top
#456618 - 02/09/18 10:32 AM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: jford]
Jim Fogle Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 3456
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
John,

On my computer I have a 64 bit TTS-1 (courtesy of Sonar Home Studio) and 32 bit TTS-1 (courtesy of Cakewalk Music Creator 6). The 64 bit version was installed AFTER the 32 bit version.

After the 64 bit install I received a RealBand error message and had to disassociate RealBand from the 32 bit TTS-1, reboot and associate once more. I'm sorry but I don't remember the exact steps but RealBand has to forget about TTS-1 then re-associate.
_________________________
Jim Fogle
2018 BiaB (512) UltraPlusPak RB 2018 (Build 5)
Sonar Home Studio - Cakewalk Music Creator 6 - Audacity
i3 laptop, 64bit Win 7, 8 GB ram, 480GB HDD
Music at: http://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Top
#456623 - 02/09/18 11:08 AM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: jford]
jford Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/20/00
Posts: 10173
Loc: Pensacola, Florida
The weird thing is it worked a few days ago, and I haven't installed anything new from Cakewalk recently (for obvious reasons). I did try to re-install TTS-1 (32-bit from Music Creator 7).

I will probably try to remove it from the DX(i) list, then scan again and see if it picks it up. If that doesn't work, I'll try deleting the associated DX(i) related text files in the RealBand (and PTPA folders) and see if that fixes it.
_________________________
John

HP Win10Pro-64, 8GB
ASUS Win10Pro-64, 16GB
HP Win7Pro-64, 8GB

H/W-Behringer U-Phoria UMC404HD, Casio Kbds
S/W-BB/RB2018/Sonar/Reaper/Studio One/Samplitude/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Noteworthy/NI Komplete/Halion/Garritan/IK
Web-http://www.sus4chord.com

Top
#456626 - 02/09/18 11:21 AM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: jford]
Jim Fogle Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 3456
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Please keep us advised. I'm sure all of us that use TTS-1 may need to search for this thread sometime in the future and knowing how you fix it will be helpful.
_________________________
Jim Fogle
2018 BiaB (512) UltraPlusPak RB 2018 (Build 5)
Sonar Home Studio - Cakewalk Music Creator 6 - Audacity
i3 laptop, 64bit Win 7, 8 GB ram, 480GB HDD
Music at: http://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Top
#456627 - 02/09/18 11:25 AM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: jford]
jford Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/20/00
Posts: 10173
Loc: Pensacola, Florida
Sure will. Weird problem, but I'll get to the bottom of it. I know it's there, because the other 32-bit DAWs see it and can use it. It's just with RealBand/PTPA that I get the error message now (which I haven't seen before, well, ever...).
_________________________
John

HP Win10Pro-64, 8GB
ASUS Win10Pro-64, 16GB
HP Win7Pro-64, 8GB

H/W-Behringer U-Phoria UMC404HD, Casio Kbds
S/W-BB/RB2018/Sonar/Reaper/Studio One/Samplitude/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Noteworthy/NI Komplete/Halion/Garritan/IK
Web-http://www.sus4chord.com

Top
#456702 - 02/09/18 06:16 PM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: jford]
Larry Kehl Offline
Veteran

Registered: 06/04/00
Posts: 2019
Loc: New Mexico
John

sounds EXACTLY like you have the 64 bit version "active" not the 32 bit - MUSIC Creator 7 DEFAULTS to 64-bit at install time (so triple check) when it does it installs 64 bit add-ons by default

The 64 bit TTS-1 ddl will show up as 5,973 KB ( in win 10 explorer) and the 32 bit version will show up as 5,887 KB

(need to find that old thread that tells you how to have both versions)

here is a HANDY little app you need to add to your toolbox - looks at ANY dll and exe and TELLS you if its 32 or 64 and other useful info it's called PE Deconstruct

https://computingabdn.com/2016/01/05/32-vs-64-bit-in-windows-what-kind-your-binary-is/

Larry
_________________________
Win7&10 Pro 64,i7-2600k,32GB,1OTBs HDD,RX480 8GB,FW-410,MIDIplus4x4,Montage7,Fusion 8HD,QS8,GR-50,Integra7, XV5080,Fantom-XR,QSR,SC-8850,Nanosynth,SPLAT,AD2,ST3,Kontakt 5,Amptube4,way too many other VSTi's - but I'm really a guitar player

Top
#456716 - 02/09/18 10:52 PM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: jford]
Noel96 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 12614
Loc: Australia
John,

I think this is Larry's post that he was talking about.

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=282967

Regards,
Noel
_________________________
LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS


Top
#456856 - 02/10/18 03:53 PM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: jford]
jford Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/20/00
Posts: 10173
Loc: Pensacola, Florida
Well, I think I've sort of figured it out.

There was a post about generating audio harmonies using the built-in TC-Helicon harmonizer and the sample file "Listen". This problem cropped up while I was trying to replicate the original poster's problem with that file.

Well, it looks like TTS-1 craps out when I load that particular file. I don't know if it's because it's such an old file, but I get an error selecting TTS-1 when using that file. If I open any one of my own generated files, TTS-1 works fine.
_________________________
John

HP Win10Pro-64, 8GB
ASUS Win10Pro-64, 16GB
HP Win7Pro-64, 8GB

H/W-Behringer U-Phoria UMC404HD, Casio Kbds
S/W-BB/RB2018/Sonar/Reaper/Studio One/Samplitude/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Noteworthy/NI Komplete/Halion/Garritan/IK
Web-http://www.sus4chord.com

Top
#456858 - 02/10/18 03:59 PM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: jford]
Noel96 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 12614
Loc: Australia
That's interesting and EXCELLENT detective work, John!

Thanks for passing the information on. I'll have try a little later today to see how 'Listen" goes for me.
_________________________
LINKS TO MY BIAB/RB SONGS


Top
#456886 - 02/10/18 07:19 PM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: Noel96]
Larry Kehl Offline
Veteran

Registered: 06/04/00
Posts: 2019
Loc: New Mexico
Yep that's the one

way overkill but allows you to easily switch back and forth without re-installing.

I never could figure out how to get regsvr to work but I didn't spend any time after first try either

Larry
_________________________
Win7&10 Pro 64,i7-2600k,32GB,1OTBs HDD,RX480 8GB,FW-410,MIDIplus4x4,Montage7,Fusion 8HD,QS8,GR-50,Integra7, XV5080,Fantom-XR,QSR,SC-8850,Nanosynth,SPLAT,AD2,ST3,Kontakt 5,Amptube4,way too many other VSTi's - but I'm really a guitar player

Top
#456932 - 02/11/18 06:16 AM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: jford]
rharv Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/30/00
Posts: 18669
Loc: Marysville, Mi. USA
That file is 16/22k and sets RB to be 16/22 which is the likely underlying cause. .. (and why it sounds terrible). Solo the vocal in the original; a ton of artifacts.
The 4 part sample has the same issue but a bit more hidden.

You can change your bitrate to 16/44 after opening the song, which doesn't make it sound any better but may allow the TTS-1 to be used.


Edited by rharv (02/11/18 06:18 AM)
_________________________
Make your sound your own!

Top
#456972 - 02/11/18 09:30 AM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: Noel96]
Jim Fogle Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 3456
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
Originally Posted By: Noel96
John,

I think this is Larry's post that he was talking about.

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=282967

Regards,
Noel


Anyway one of you beta testers can ask a forum moderator to move Larry's post and resulting discussion to Tips & Tricks and make it a sticky note?

Another suggestion: Perhaps PG Support could copy the information and post it to the support FAQ section.
_________________________
Jim Fogle
2018 BiaB (512) UltraPlusPak RB 2018 (Build 5)
Sonar Home Studio - Cakewalk Music Creator 6 - Audacity
i3 laptop, 64bit Win 7, 8 GB ram, 480GB HDD
Music at: http://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Top
#457051 - 02/11/18 01:55 PM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: jford]
Larry Kehl Offline
Veteran

Registered: 06/04/00
Posts: 2019
Loc: New Mexico
Well then John everything I said ....just (like SNL's Emily Litella) "never mind!" grin

Glad you got it
Larry

Top
#457960 - 02/17/18 11:16 AM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: Bob Calver]
jazzmammal Offline
Veteran

Registered: 06/08/05
Posts: 6412
Loc: Redondo Beach, Ca.
Originally Posted By: Bob Calver
On my version one of the kick drums is not responsive to velocity changes. Is the TTS-1?


Yes, it's both with the Hypercanvass and the TTS-1. The velocity is stuck at 127 for the kick. I haven't used either in some time but I remember when I invoked it RB popped up a message box saying something like do you want to change the kick drum patch? Click yes and velocity issue goes away. It's possible you may like the tone of the original kick better but if it's stuck at 127 it's useless.

If you're not seeing that message then you'll have to go into the control panel of either synth and change the kick drum there then save it as a custom user patch.

Bob
_________________________
Win 10 64 bit, Intel 4770, 256 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA1XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.

Top
#457973 - 02/17/18 12:08 PM [RealBand] Re: Cakewalk TTS-1 [Re: jazzmammal]
MarioD Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 10594
Loc: Hamlin NY
Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
Originally Posted By: Bob Calver
On my version one of the kick drums is not responsive to velocity changes. Is the TTS-1?


Yes, it's both with the Hypercanvass and the TTS-1. The velocity is stuck at 127 for the kick. I haven't used either in some time but I remember when I invoked it RB popped up a message box saying something like do you want to change the kick drum patch? Click yes and velocity issue goes away. It's possible you may like the tone of the original kick better but if it's stuck at 127 it's useless.

If you're not seeing that message then you'll have to go into the control panel of either synth and change the kick drum there then save it as a custom user patch.

Bob


I know that, at least in Sonar, you could change things like velocity for the kick and save that patch as a new one. Then when you load your new custom patch the change, in this case velocity, was OK. I think that was a TTS-1 thing and not a Sonar thing but I do not know for sure but you may want try it and see.
_________________________
Yesterday I walked into a room and remembered why I was there! It was the bathroom!

64 bit Win 10 Pro - the latest BiaB and RB - Roland Octa-Capture audio interface - a ton of software and some hardware.

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >


PG Music News
Introducing... RealTracks Artists David Wise & Shelly Justice!

For the first time ever Band-in-a-Box® can generate backing vocals with some amazing "oohs" and "aahs" vocal arrangements with RealTrack Set 278: Shiny Vocals Oohs and Aahs! Add male or female parts by renowned Nashville vocalists David Wise and Shelly Justice, and you'll LOVE the results!

David and Shelly have recorded with many different artists, including CeCe Winans, Dolly Parton, Don Henley, Donnie McClurkin, Jeremy Camp, Lady Antebellum, OneRepublic, Steve Green, and more!

RealTrack Set 278: Shiny Vocals Oohs and Aahs includes a three-part, six-voice arrangement – which you can use all together in your song or individually for more delicate textures! Listen to the demos for RealTracks Set 278 here.

Purchase RealTrack Set 278: Shiny Vocals Oohs and Aahs for just $29 here. It's also included in the Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows PlusPAK, UltraPAK, and Audiophile Edition.

Learn more about Dave & Shelly when you visit their RealTracks Artist Bio page:
David Wise: http://www.pgmusic.com/realtracks.artists.php?a=150
Shelly Justice: http://www.pgmusic.com/realtracks.artists.php?a=151

#TechTipTuesday - Band-in-a-Box® Patch Updates

If you're ever experiencing an issue with your Band-in-a-Box program, make sure you have the most recent patch update for your version - this can be done at http://www.pgmusic.com/support.updates.win.htm.

Patch updates are released frequently, and are created by our development team to fix any reported bugs, tweak existing features within the program, update demos and other files as needed, and more!

To find out which version of the program you have, visit Help | About Band-in-a-Box within the program. You will see the full version number listing as:
Band-in-a-Box® for Windows
Version 2018 (512)

The number in parentheses is the build number. As you can see, my Band-in-a-Box is up to date and will continue to stay that way because I've selected "Automatically check for updates every 7 days" within the Help | Check for Updates.... option (you can set the number of days to a different number). This window will also look to see if you're version is up to date, so you don't technically have to visit http://www.pgmusic.com/support.updates.win.htm if you didn't want to!

Once you've installed your patch update (make sure the program is closed when you're doing this), give it another try - if you are still experiencing the same issue you can report it by contacting us directly, or you can post your result to the Forum thread that also announces the patch update, like our recent Band-in-a-Box 2018 Build 512 Update (Feb 15) post.

YouTube Find - How To Play SLOW A7 BLUES Guitar Solo With 4 NOTES

Check out one of EricBlackmonGuitar's latest videos, How To Play SLOW A7 BLUES Guitar Solo With 4 NOTES and you'll hear a great Band-in-a-Box backing track!

http://www.pgmusic.com/?vid=blJPIX-9YbE

...and you'll also learn how to play blues with just a few notes!

A Little Bit Of Me Music Video!

A great music video created by forum user Floyd Jane! https://youtu.be/qPrejgnwb4M?t=3600

This song was featured in a detailed "The Birth of a Song" video created by Floyd Jane - watch the complete video here:
http://www.pgmusic.com/?vid=qPrejgnwb4M

RealBand 2018 Build 5 Update Available!

RealBand 2018 customers can download the latest free patch update here: http://www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#2018_5

Summary of Changes for Build 5
Added: When generating the input file for saving as an MGU/SGU SongMode128= is saved to the input file.
Added: Localization support for 2018.
Added: flyby hints to new dialogs.
Fixed: Save As with a filename greater than 128 chars could cause an error 123 plus access violation.
Fixed: Rebooting RealBand after a filename with 128 chars was saved could cause an access violation.
Fixed: Pressing the Change button in the Event List Window could result in an access violation if an event was not a Note event.
Fixed: When running in Win 10, and using BBW or PT to generate audio harmonies, an error would occur saying that you need BB 2011 or PT 12 to generate audio harmonies.
Fixed: Midi Thru Method was not being saved to the .INI file. It always reverting to Track-Specific when booting up RealBand, even if the user manually changed the setting to Global in the Midi Thru Settings dialog.
Fixed: Delete All Notes on This Peg menu item in notation window right-click menu was missing.
Fixed: Potential crash on exit (having to do with the DLL attempting to free up a dynamic array that was passed to it).

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 Build 512 Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows customers can download the latest free patch update here: www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#512

Summary of changes for Build 512 since 510 (Feb 15 2018):
Fixed: "Load SoundTrack Song" and "Load song with RealDrums Audio" buttons in the Sound Track dialog were not working.
Fixed: After returning Band-in-a-Box to factory settings the File Open dialog would default to the bb\Data\Lib directory.
Fixed: Choosing a custom chord sheet font would ignore any color choice made in the font selection dialog.
Fixed: Drum names were sometimes truncated in the RealDrums MultiDrums and Quicklist dialogs.
Fixed: Exporting a MIDI file might cause the error, "MIDIConv.exe no found".
Fixed: Mixer changes were not undoable, and would not cause user to be prompted to save their song when exiting.
Fixed: Static in RT2438 and other various RealTracks fixes.
Fixed: StylePicker database various updates. Some styles were displaying the wrong feel (swing/even) in notation. A few styles incorrectly showed missing Drums.
Fixed: The audio latency setting would increase every time leaving the Windows Audio Devices dialog.
Fixed: The Download Manager folder name defaulted to 2016 instead of 2018.
Updated: Help file.

PowerTracks Pro Audio 2018 is Here!

PowerTracks Pro Audio 2018 is here! PowerTracks Pro Audio 2018 includes many new features and enhancements:

Windows Audio (WASAPI) driver support. This allows for low latency audio recording/playback without requiring ASIO. Note that this supports 1 stereo input plus 1 stereo output at a time. For multiple inputs/outputs, you should continue to use either MME or ASIO.

ABC Notation format support. You can save a track of notation in a popular ASCII text format to import into other programs, or you can paste this format into a user forum as a way of sending the track (usually the melody and chord symbols) to other users without having to attach a file.

The built-in Audio Chord Wizard detection in the Chords window automatically detects the chords of the song, based on the audio data from all non-muted audio tracks. This works similar to the standalone Audio Chord Wizard, except that it uses the current bar lines of the existing song.

Notation Enhancements:
-X/8 time signature support. This is a special method of displaying 6/8, 9/8, or 12/8 time signatures in the Notation window.
-The Duplicate previous chord in notation right-click menu lets you quickly duplicate the previous chord (group of notes on same peg) without having to reenter it.
-Delete highlighted notes in notation right-click menu lets you delete all highlighted notes.
-Delete all notes on this peg in notation right-click menu lets you delete all notes on the nearest peg that was clicked on.
-You can now enter Section Numbers. Previously, you could enter letters (A-Z) only, but now you can also enter numbers (1-9).

...a full list of the new features in PowerTracks Pro Audio 2018 is available at http://www.pgmusic.com/powertracks.features.htm

http://www.pgmusic.com/powertracks.htm

Forum Stats
27129 Members
49 Forums
50316 Topics
412924 Posts

Max Online: 2434 @ 11/14/17 12:37 AM
Newest Members
Jknadler61, Stephanus L, thatsastrat, Michael R. Boyce, Pierrott

27129 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Noel96 256
Matt Finley 251
MarioD 173
VideoTrack 159
jford 144
Janice & Bud 140
Al-David 128
eddie1261 127
Torrey Bliss 127
David Snyder 117
Today's Birthdays
CarlosEArellano, GDaddy, Manuel