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#455993 - 02/06/18 09:12 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Installing the Band-in-a-Box® Hard Drive Versions
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Have you purchased a Band-in-a-Box® UltraPAK, which ships on a portable USB hard drive? Once received, there are a few different options for you: Run Band-in-a-Box® directly from the USB drive only, Install Band-in-a-Box® on your computer hard drive (but leave the RealTracks and RealDrums on the USB hard drive), Install Band-in-a-Box® AND RealTracks on your computer hard drive, or choose a Custom Installation!

To summarize these options:

Option #1 - Run Band-in-a-Box® directly from the USB drive only. This allows you to use the hard drive "as is" and run the programs from it. It requires very little free disk space on your internal hard drive. Setup will install and register the PG Music notation fonts, VSC-DXi synth, VSC-VST synth, and PG Music DirectX audio plugins on your computer, but will not install Band-in-a-Box®, RealBand, RealTracks, or RealDrums on your computer's internal hard drive.

Option #2 - Install Band-in-a-Box® on your computer hard drive, but leave the RealTracks and RealDrums on the USB hard drive. This requires more hard disk space, about 2 to 4 GB. In addition to the plugins and fonts, this will install the Band-in-a-Box® and RealBand programs to your computer's hard drive, and allow you to run the programs from there, as if you had installed them from a DVD.

Option #3 - Install Band-in-a-Box® AND RealTracks on your computer hard drive. In addition to everything installed by Option 2, this will copy the RealTracks and RealDrums (Drums) folders from the USB drive to your computer's hard drive, as if you had installed the entire package from DVD. This will allow you to keep the PG Music hard drive primarily for backup, and use Band-in-a-Box® and RealBand (along with the RealTracks) directly from your computer hard drive. NOTE: This option requires a lot of free hard disk space (over 80 GB) since these folders contain many audio files, and the installation may take about an hour to complete depending on how fast your computer is.

Option #4 - Custom Installation - Choose exactly what you want to install. This option is for advanced users who want to be able to select exactly what is installed. For example, you could install RealDrums but not RealTracks, or skip the DX plugins, or install the Video Tutorials, etc.

For more detailed information, visit http://www.pgmusic.com/techfaq51.htm#163

No matter how you install and use your Band-in-a-Box® hard drive, make sure you're saving your songs (or a copy of them) to your own folder not on the hard drive - that way you'll have a back-up copy if your hard drive isn't available to you!

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#455995 - 02/06/18 09:38 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: #TipTuesday - Installing the Band-in-a-Box® Hard Drive Versions [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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This is helpful. To answer questions from new users, we frequently have to refer to these setup options. Perhaps you would consider making this a sticky.
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#455996 - 02/06/18 09:42 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: #TipTuesday - Installing the Band-in-a-Box® Hard Drive Versions [Re: Matt Finley]
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Great idea Matt - it's sticky now smile
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#456005 - 02/06/18 10:53 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: #TipTuesday - Installing the Band-in-a-Box® Hard Drive Versions [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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For my laptop install, I used Option #1. My C:\BB only has two folders and about 2 Meg of data in it to corroborate "very little disk space" that Callie referenced.
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#456043 - 02/06/18 01:53 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: #TipTuesday - Installing the Band-in-a-Box® Hard Drive Versions [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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My upgrade UltraPak is currently in Honolulu, en route to Australia.

Given that I already have BIAB Pro installed on my C:\ drive, I think option #2 will work best for me. I assume that it will be fine to install the new BIAB over the existing one.

Will there be any problems with the existing RealTracks and RealDrums on my C:\ drive and the ones on the usb hard drive?

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#456099 - 02/06/18 07:18 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: #TipTuesday - Installing the Band-in-a-Box® Hard Drive Versions [Re: Bunyip]
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No. When you install the 2018 Band-in-a-Box you're asked where RealTracks and RealDrums reside. Once you tell BiaB they are located on the external drive then BiaB will quit using the RealTracks and RealDrums located on your primary drive.

One issue you might encounter though is Windows may change the drive letter if you plug the drive into different USB ports or plug a USB memory stick into a port prior to plugging in the USB drive. You can avoid the drive letter issue by going to control center and manually assigning a drive letter to the external USB drive.
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#456104 - 02/06/18 07:52 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: #TipTuesday - Installing the Band-in-a-Box® Hard Drive Versions [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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1. I assign an unusually high drive letter to BIAB so it is not dependent on whether other devices are installed.

2. Jim is correct, it's one location or the other. You can always move your older files, but since you bought the Ultrapak, it won't matter; you will have all the files on your new USB drive.
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#456293 - 02/07/18 01:36 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: #TipTuesday - Installing the Band-in-a-Box® Hard Drive Versions [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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Thanks Jim and Matt, your info is very helpful.

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#456402 - 02/08/18 05:21 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: #TipTuesday - Installing the Band-in-a-Box® Hard Drive Versions [Re: Callie - PG Music]
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I chose a high drive letter for BiaB.

I read an article that recommended to use letters between M and Z for external drives that you want to keep a stable letter.

M for Music?

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#457325 - 02/13/18 09:07 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: #TipTuesday - Installing the Band-in-a-Box® Hard Drive Versions [Re: Notes Norton]
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Originally Posted By: Notes Norton
M for Music?


My data is on P for Pro Tools. grin

I just got my 2018 and was surprised to see it on 7 DVDs rather than an external hard drive. Surprised but not disappointed. DVDs are fine. Wonder if a 32gb thumb drive would be even better? Though for those who opt to run it from USB the load times from a thumb drive would be close to glacial....

And with a 2017 manual with a "What's new" insert for 2018.


Edited by eddie1261 (02/13/18 09:10 AM)
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#457326 - 02/13/18 09:09 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: #TipTuesday - Installing the Band-in-a-Box® Hard Drive Versions [Re: eddie1261 - gone]
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Originally Posted By: eddie1261
Originally Posted By: Notes Norton
M for Music?


My data is on P for Pro Tools.

I just got mt 2018 and was surprised to see it on 7 DVDs rather than an external hard drive. Surprised but not disappointed. DVDs are fine. Wonder if a 32gb thumb drive would be even better?

And with a 2017 manual with a "What's new" insert for 2018.


If you look at our packages, http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.htm, it shows that the UltraPAK and Audiophile ship on a portable hard drive - the Pro, MegaPAK, and PlusPAK ship on DVD or Flash Drive (chosen by the customer during the order process).

If you had chosen the flash drive, note that it would have been loaded with installation files - the program does not run from the flash drive.
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PG Music News
RealTracks Patch Update for Windows Users

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows users can download the latest RealTracks update patch (519) here.

This patch includes some RealTracks audio updates we have made since the release of Band-in-a-Box 2018. 2018 users should be sure to download the latest Band-in-a-Box 2018 update patch (519), as that patch includes the bulk of the fixes for RealTracks released with 2018. This is a larger download than typical because it updates the Vocal Oohs and Aahs RealTracks audio files. There is more information and Audiophile patches available here.

Summary of RealTracks Audio updates:
Improved: There were small issues with the tuning of several Bass styles. This has been fixed for both the original mix and the direct input mix. This affects the following RealTracks:
- Bass, Acoustic, AmericanaSlow16thsByron Ev16 060
- Bass, Acoustic, AmericanaSlow128Byron Sw 040
- Bass, Acoustic, RockabillySwingByron Sw 190
- Bass, Acoustic, BluesyPopByron Ev 100
Improved: Audio glitches have been removed from the ends of phrases in the Vocal Oohs and Aahs RealTracks.

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows Patch Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows users can download the latest (free) update patch (519) here.

Summary of changes:
Added: Additional dialog available for detailed information in the StyleMaker (fields for memo, examples, and other parameters). These are set in the StyleMaker (more dialog, a button called "Style Memos etc").
Added: Help Video button Added to the Audio Harmony dialog.
Improved: ABC opening improvements with some accidentals, and leadin bars that occur in middle of song.
Improved: Audio harmonies now used Improved algorithms, and can be easily set using N voices above, M voices below (and have additional functions like duplicate melody, and dup. melody octave below).
Improved: Lyrics will be now read from .mid files that used to be karaoke files (.kar) and got renamed somewhere along the line.
Improved: Support for RealTracks that should be transposed only lower (ie heavy metal guitars) and for future Improved metal guitar comping.
Improved: The Audio Harmony Dialog has been rearranged to be more intuitive when using Band-in-a-Box Intelligent Mode.
Fixed: Audio harmonies might be missing some notes.
Fixed: Audio harmonies would be generated with the wrong notes if selecting a range of audio in the middle of the track.
Fixed: Band-in-a-Box might crash on bootup with error "Read Beyond end of file".
Fixed: Band-in-a-Box should show message if the latest VJT application is not installed when the user tries to render videos.
Fixed: File > Open Special > Open Audio was importing audio instead of opening it in a new song.
Fixed: In the Bar Settings window, "Chordsheet and Notation - Start a New Line" should say "Notation - Start a New Line".
Fixed: It was not possible to record audio using WAS audio drivers if "Output always on" was disabled.
Fixed: Misc. RealTracks updates.
Fixed: Quicklist drums picker sometimes showing too many drums in the list.
Fixed: Redundant flash messages were showing.
Fixed: Removing a custom drums from a track would still display Drums as the name of the loop in the track.
Fixed: Rendering audio while there is a region of bars highlighted in the chord sheet might cause a crash.
Fixed: Saving a MIDI file would fail unless saving as type 1.
Fixed: Some 12-key RealTracks were incorrectly set to allow transposition.
Fixed: The Audio Harmony dialog needed some hints.
Fixed: The Audio Harmony dialog was missing the new Band-in-a-Box Intelligent Mode.
Fixed: The VJT application should print out its version number in log files.

Tutorials - How to Install Your Band-in-a-Box® for Mac Hard Drive

When you have your Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac UltraPAK shipped to you on a portable hard drive, there are a few different options for installation. We go over these 3 options with our latest video series:

Option 1: Run Band-in-a-Box® directly from the USB drive only: click here to view.

Option 2: Install Band-in-a-Box® on your computer hard drive, but leave the RealTracks & RealDrums on the USB hard drive: click here to view.

Option 3: Install Band-in-a-Box® and the RealTracks & RealDrums on your computer hard drive: click here to view.

Check out all our Band-in-a-Box for Mac videos here.

Video - Downloading and Installing RealTracks Sets for Band-in-a-Box® for Mac

Have you purchased your Band-in-a-Box® package, and want to make sure you're downloading and installing the RealTracks Sets correctly?

Well, we've created just the tutorial video you're looking for! Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac® - Downloading and Installing RealTracks Sets.

Video link:
www.pgmusic.com/?vid=QndXu8H_IwM

Thoughts on Band-in-a-Box® 2017 - Mac Power Users Discussion

David Sparks and Katie Floyd discuss a variety of topics in their recent episide of Mac Power Users: https://www.relay.fm/mpu/432 - listen all the way through (and laugh along with them - it was a very entertaining episode!), or jump to 1:37:40 where David shares his thoughts on Band-in-a-Box® 2017 for Mac!

Thank you David and Katie!

Polish New Features Video for Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows

Our Polish Distributor, Sound Station, has finished their Band-in-a-Box 2018 New Features summary video (in Polish!) - click here to watch.

We hope all our Polish Band-in-a-Box users find this video helpful - thank you Sound Station!

YouTube Find - Love it (with Band-in-a-Box 2018)

YouTube channel EmtpyHallToones uploaded a video of their guitar performance using Band-in-a-Box backing tracks!

Click here to watch.

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