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#459662 - 02/28/18 02:56 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Way OT - open Win 10 WordPad in landscape mode by default? [Re: Notes Norton]
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Thanks for the suggestions. I appreciate the help.

We are in the middle of our busy season. My XP computers on stage will probably last through the rest of it, and then I'll resume searching. In retrospect it was probably foolish of me to even think about this during the height of the tourist season.

If worse comes to worse I could convert them all to .pdf files, but with 550+ songs, it's something I'd rather not spend the time on.

Take care,
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#461436 - 03/10/18 06:27 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Way OT - open Win 10 WordPad in landscape mode by default? [Re: Notes Norton]
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The default page orientation when firing up WordPad is tied to the settings of the default printer. I just checked here selecting 'Microsoft Print to PDF' as default printer and selected 'Landscape' in the printer settings.

Now WordPad opens up saved documents in landscape mode (Windows 10).

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#461575 - 03/11/18 05:27 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Way OT - open Win 10 WordPad in landscape mode by default? [Re: MartinB]
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Thanks.

I tried that and as many times as I set the default to landscape, click "Apply" and/or "OK" it's stubborn and reverts back to portrait.

I went to Control Panel > Devices and Printers > set Microsoft Print to PDF as the default > Right Click > Select "Printing Preferences" > Choose "Landscape" in the drop down box > Click "Apply" > Click "OK" and it immediately reverts to portrait.

Instead of "Printing Preferences" I chose "Printer Properties" > "Preferences" > "Landscape" etc. same results.

I even tried "Change Properties" the "Do you want to allow..." dialog box comes up > "Yes" > "Preferences" > "Landscape" > Apply > "OK" and it immediately reverts to Portrait.

I did notice one thing that might be a clue. In the status bar at the bottom of the Devices And Printers dialog box, when complete, it says "Status: Setup incomplete because of a metered connection".

I have no idea what that means.

I have an early gig today, so that is the next mystery.

I tried the same thing with the Nitro PDF Creator that came with my ThinkPad, and it does the same thing.

This also happens on two computers.

There should be a way if it works on yours.

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#461587 - 03/11/18 08:04 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Way OT - open Win 10 WordPad in landscape mode by default? [Re: Notes Norton]
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#461730 - 03/12/18 12:00 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Way OT - open Win 10 WordPad in landscape mode by default? [Re: Notes Norton]
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If you start the Open Office interface, minimize it, and then use Windows Explorer to open a document file, it will open quickly and windowed exactly the way you saved it.

Would saving your files as PDF help?

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#461775 - 03/12/18 07:50 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Way OT - open Win 10 WordPad in landscape mode by default? [Re: rharv]
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Thanks, next day off this will be the first stop.

I think my computer guy put one of my computers on a metered connection and instructed me to to the same to the others.

This was in the Win 8 to Win 10 days. Microsoft was using Leilani's computer as a distribution source to other computers. Since we live too far away from the fiber optics, we can only get DSL light, so whenever Leilani's computer was on, our DSL connection slowed to a crawl (dial-up speed).

We have a St Patty's party every day of the week, s next week I'll do a fresh disk image and try those links.

Thanks again,
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#461780 - 03/12/18 08:18 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Way OT - open Win 10 WordPad in landscape mode by default? [Re: Notes Norton]
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Not sure whether metered connections are responsible for the recalcitrant behavior of your printer settings. I just set my system to 'metered connection' and tried this printer-settings-to-Landscape gymnastics. Worked flawlessly and WordPad opens documents in Landscape mode even with metered connection settings.

I did not see your reported warning "Status: Setup incomplete because of a metered connection", though. This might well be due to the fact, that I am on a DSL connection, which bypasses any mobile connection restriction, of course.

However, it sure appears somewhat unlikely, that this metered connection business should interfere with these printer settings at all. After all, printer settings may flawlessly get changed with any mobile or Wlan connection cut off.

If your printer settings keep being stubborn, this may be a case for a chat with some Microsoft Support guy - they have this Live Chat feature these days. Check it out.
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#461835 - 03/12/18 04:18 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Way OT - open Win 10 WordPad in landscape mode by default? [Re: MartinB]
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One of my links was from Microsoft. They are aware of this setting affecting printers .. just saying.
IT nerds run into every weird thing you can imagine.

Bob mentioning the error was a huge help (clue) in what was happening.
Anyway, worth a shot.

From MS -
"You might receive this message when you connect a device and it tries to connect to the Internet using a metered connection to check for new device software. To avoid unexpected data charges, your PC won't allow the device to automatically check for new software when you use a metered connection.

To always download device software on a metered connection:

Swipe in from the right edge of the screen, select Settings > Change PC settings.
(If you're using a mouse, point to the upper-right corner of the screen, move the mouse pointer down, choose Settings, and then select Change PC settings.)
Select PC and devices.
Select Devices, then make sure Download over metered connections is set to On.

Once you've finished downloading your devices updates, you can turn this setting off to avoid unexpected charges when you're on a metered network."
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#461888 - 03/13/18 05:19 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Way OT - open Win 10 WordPad in landscape mode by default? [Re: Notes Norton]
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Thanks. I'll give that a try next day off.

I hate to do any changes without making a full Acronis image first, and that takes a couple of hours.

It does seem like a weird way to go just to get WordPad to remember to open a file saved in the landscape mode to open in the landscape mode.

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#461997 - 03/13/18 03:08 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Way OT - open Win 10 WordPad in landscape mode by default? [Re: Notes Norton]
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There is an off chance that the printer settings behavior may be due to, for whatever reasons, limited rights ->

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-hardware/not-able-to-change-the-printer-properties/55c7a872-5bdd-48c7-8b65-905bc7a4328e
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#462080 - 03/14/18 05:14 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Way OT - open Win 10 WordPad in landscape mode by default? [Re: Notes Norton]
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Thanks - nice try but I've already been there.

This is really weird. If I save in landscape mode it should open in landscape mode.

I can save a page in MS Publisher in landscape mode and it opens in landscape mode, but WordPad in Win10 will not.

I can save a page in Word as a doc in landscape and it will open as a landscape in Word or Libre Office but not WordPad (wordpad doesn't really like doc files as the formatting confuses it). So I saved it as .rtf, opened in WordPad and it opens in letter mode.

I think the problem is WordPad.

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#462122 - 03/14/18 09:46 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Way OT - open Win 10 WordPad in landscape mode by default? [Re: Notes Norton]
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Hey Notes, did you get a chance to try Rharv's metered connection links? I'm still wondering if that could be part of the problem. At least to see if we can rule that one out.
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#462164 - 03/14/18 02:44 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Way OT - open Win 10 WordPad in landscape mode by default? [Re: Notes Norton]
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WordPad was a Windows 95 replacement for Microsoft Write and was always just a barebones editor one step above Notepad, but allowing for a limited amount of rich text formatting. And the issues with opening DOC files are known by MS, in that they even dropped DOC support with Windows Vista.

I would agree that the problem is probably WordPad itself.
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#462191 - 03/14/18 05:16 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Way OT - open Win 10 WordPad in landscape mode by default? [Re: Notes Norton]
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Notes, google/bing you problem and you will find out that you are not alone! WordPad, or more precisely MS, is the problem.
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#462236 - 03/15/18 03:41 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Way OT - open Win 10 WordPad in landscape mode by default? [Re: Notes Norton]
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Sorry I didn't read through all these post but did you try copying and running WordPad from XP or 7 on 10 in normal or compatibility
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#462246 - 03/15/18 05:41 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Way OT - open Win 10 WordPad in landscape mode by default? [Re: Notes Norton]
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I liked the bare-bones Notepad with fonts and the ability to paste an image and nothing more. It make a great full screen display, perfect for lyrics with perhaps a line or two of music pasted from a notation app.

I think the thing to do is find a replacement. My XP and 7 computers are still working fine so I'm OK on stage. I just need to be ready with a substitute for the eventuality that one fails.

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