You need to be logged in to post on the forum
Topic Options
Index
#458271 - 02/19/18 11:40 AM [My Favorite Things] How many drummers use BIAB and how do they use it.
bowlesj Online   content
Journeyman

Registered: 07/01/12
Posts: 387
Hi, I am curious "How many drummers on this forum use BIAB and how do they find it useful."

Thanks,
John


Edited by bowlesj (02/19/18 11:40 AM)
_________________________
John Bowles
My playing in my 20s:
https://www.reverbnation.com/johnbowles

Top
#460191 - 03/03/18 11:41 AM [My Favorite Things] Re: How many drummers use BIAB and how do they use it. [Re: bowlesj]
Islansoul Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 05/15/15
Posts: 762
Loc: St. Petersburg , FL
Originally Posted By: bowlesj
Hi, I am curious "How many drummers on this forum use BIAB and how do they find it useful."

Thanks,
John


I use it to practice my timing with backing tracks. I input the chords from the leadsheets press play and play along.
_________________________
Computer: Mid 2014 Macbook Pro,
DAWs: Pro Tools, Logic, and Maschine
plays drums, percussion, bass, steel pan, keyboard,
music producer/engineer

Top
#460195 - 03/03/18 11:51 AM [My Favorite Things] Re: How many drummers use BIAB and how do they use it. [Re: Islansoul]
bowlesj Online   content
Journeyman

Registered: 07/01/12
Posts: 387
Thanks Islansoul. Good to hear. There are two drummers in our jamming group. Maybe in time they will practice to the BIAB backing track files I use.


Edited by bowlesj (03/03/18 11:55 AM)
_________________________
John Bowles
My playing in my 20s:
https://www.reverbnation.com/johnbowles

Top
#460208 - 03/03/18 12:14 PM [My Favorite Things] Re: How many drummers use BIAB and how do they use it. [Re: bowlesj]
bowlesj Online   content
Journeyman

Registered: 07/01/12
Posts: 387
Do you ever try this test with BIAB. Let the song count in and mute all instruments at bar#1 to see if you finished the song at the same time that BIAB finished the song. I ask because speeding up too much is a killer with my jam group since they practice to a specific speed. At the same time they want to get enough players to eliminate BIAB. So I compromised and said we will do this test and use BIAB to see if we sped up. If we did I put the rhythm guitar click track back in for everyone to listen too so we don't speed up and I remind them of 4 web pages which are all about how to prevent oneself from speeding up (or slowing down).


Edited by bowlesj (03/03/18 12:16 PM)
_________________________
John Bowles
My playing in my 20s:
https://www.reverbnation.com/johnbowles

Top
#464354 - 03/27/18 09:35 AM [My Favorite Things] Re: How many drummers use BIAB and how do they use it. [Re: bowlesj]
Islansoul Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 05/15/15
Posts: 762
Loc: St. Petersburg , FL
I would suggest that you add a shaker from BIAB to make sure you're on point.
_________________________
Computer: Mid 2014 Macbook Pro,
DAWs: Pro Tools, Logic, and Maschine
plays drums, percussion, bass, steel pan, keyboard,
music producer/engineer

Top
#464355 - 03/27/18 09:48 AM [My Favorite Things] Re: How many drummers use BIAB and how do they use it. [Re: Islansoul]
bowlesj Online   content
Journeyman

Registered: 07/01/12
Posts: 387
I was not sure what a shaker was so I had to google search it and found it at this page.. I used a cowbell for a while but it gets boring. I tried to isolate it to the right channel so only the drummer could hear it but that did not work so well. So I decided to replace my rhythm guitar with the BIAB guitar which sounds almost exactly the way I play. I also decided to balance everything across left and right channels evenly so everyone can hear it. Using the BIAB guitar allows me to set mix levels so I just do solos and sometimes melody. They just have to realize that the BIAB guitar has perfect time.

So far I have not had a drummer come out to try it so the BIAB drums keeps us in perfect time. Most jams have the addition of BIAB piano. Occasionally I put in BIAB bass. We have had 8 jams and it is working very well. We have had three drummers in our jam group. One has no problem with playing along with BIAB. One absolutely refuses and left. The other is slowly getting use to the idea after hearing just how good the BIAB tracks sound.


Edited by bowlesj (03/27/18 09:55 AM)
_________________________
John Bowles
My playing in my 20s:
https://www.reverbnation.com/johnbowles

Top
#474942 - 05/28/18 08:29 AM [My Favorite Things] Re: How many drummers use BIAB and how do they use it. [Re: bowlesj]
Islansoul Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 05/15/15
Posts: 762
Loc: St. Petersburg , FL
Sorry, I meant that you should use a shaker real tracks as a metronome and use that to play along with your backing tracks.


Edited by Islansoul (05/28/18 08:30 AM)
_________________________
Computer: Mid 2014 Macbook Pro,
DAWs: Pro Tools, Logic, and Maschine
plays drums, percussion, bass, steel pan, keyboard,
music producer/engineer

Top
#474961 - 05/28/18 09:45 AM [My Favorite Things] Re: How many drummers use BIAB and how do they use it. [Re: bowlesj]
MusicStudent Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 5500
Loc: Chicago
Originally Posted By: bowlesj
I used a cowbell for a while but it gets boring. I tried to isolate it to the right channel so only the drummer could hear it but that did not work so well.

... One absolutely refuses and left. The other is slowly getting use to the idea after hearing just how good the BIAB tracks sound.


Wow, a cow bell as metronome count for the drummer. I am not surprised one guy would leave, but I am more worried for the guy "getting use to it". grin
_________________________
Dan
BIAB2018
BIAB User Map
SoundCloud


Top
#474962 - 05/28/18 10:11 AM [My Favorite Things] Re: How many drummers use BIAB and how do they use it. [Re: MusicStudent]
bowlesj Online   content
Journeyman

Registered: 07/01/12
Posts: 387
We had one jam with congas, bass, 2 guitars and trumpet. There was a speed up issue in every song. I will blame everyone rather than one since everyone just went along for the ride :-) The slower the song the worse the speed-up. One song started at 88 and ended at 160+. The melody dropped out the 2nd time around due to the speed change. After that I put BIAB in with drums. All the remaining songs stayed dead on speed (totally fixed the problem). So now if the players want to play without BIAB I have BIAB count us in and I mute all tracks at bar #1 so I can use BIAB to determine if we sped up too much. If we did I use BIAB the rest of the night. The drummer who dropped out never came out to jam and always bragged about how great he was. I suspect he may have dropped out because he is afraid to take the test (the insecure often are afraid to admit they are and will blame other things to protect themselves). If this is true it is sad because I found four web pages with methods to resolve a speed up issue in one's playing. Running from a problem is not the way to solve it. At the same time if you are not a pro who cares? Use BIAB and have fun. So far the world has not come to an end as a result of using BIAB to enhance our jams and I doubt it ever will :-) We seem to have just as much fun.


Edited by bowlesj (05/29/18 12:19 AM)
_________________________
John Bowles
My playing in my 20s:
https://www.reverbnation.com/johnbowles

Top
#476460 - 06/06/18 09:15 AM [My Favorite Things] Re: How many drummers use BIAB and how do they use it. [Re: bowlesj]
HearToLearn Offline
Expert

Registered: 08/04/10
Posts: 1443
Loc: -
I'm a drummer, and I use it for song writing. It's really nice to have a band on hand at any point and be able to change anything. Then I just drum along.

This may seem a bit strange, but I do feel if you create your own drum track to go with the generated tracks from BIAB, the song tends to sound more real to me. There is a more organic interplay between the drums and bass, and more natural fills that can be achieved. Granted, you could make that argument for any of the instruments. When you lock in the bass and drums though, it's pretty cool IMO.
_________________________
"That's what"
-She

Top
#477695 - 06/14/18 06:45 AM [My Favorite Things] Re: How many drummers use BIAB and how do they use it. [Re: bowlesj]
Deryk - PG Music Online   content
PG Music Staff

Registered: 02/15/17
Posts: 1147
This is interesting to me - of all the different forms of musicians, I don't often think how a drummer would use Band-in-a-Box for some reason. Some nice input so far smile
_________________________
Cheers,
Deryk

Top


Moderator:  Andrew - PG Music, PeterGannon 
PG Music News
Tutorials - How to Install Your Band-in-a-Box® for Mac Hard Drive

When you have your Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac UltraPAK shipped to you on a portable hard drive, there are a few different options for installation. We go over these 3 options with our latest video series:

Option 1: Run Band-in-a-Box® directly from the USB drive only: click here to view.

Option 2: Install Band-in-a-Box® on your computer hard drive, but leave the RealTracks & RealDrums on the USB hard drive: click here to view.

Option 3: Install Band-in-a-Box® and the RealTracks & RealDrums on your computer hard drive: click here to view.

Check out all our Band-in-a-Box for Mac videos here.

Video - Downloading and Installing RealTracks Sets for Band-in-a-Box® for Mac

Have you purchased your Band-in-a-Box® package, and want to make sure you're downloading and installing the RealTracks Sets correctly?

Well, we've created just the tutorial video you're looking for! Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac® - Downloading and Installing RealTracks Sets.

Video link:
www.pgmusic.com/?vid=QndXu8H_IwM

Thoughts on Band-in-a-Box® 2017 - Mac Power Users Discussion

David Sparks and Katie Floyd discuss a variety of topics in their recent episide of Mac Power Users: https://www.relay.fm/mpu/432 - listen all the way through (and laugh along with them - it was a very entertaining episode!), or jump to 1:37:40 where David shares his thoughts on Band-in-a-Box® 2017 for Mac!

Thank you David and Katie!

Polish New Features Video for Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows

Our Polish Distributor, Sound Station, has finished their Band-in-a-Box 2018 New Features summary video (in Polish!) - click here to watch.

We hope all our Polish Band-in-a-Box users find this video helpful - thank you Sound Station!

YouTube Find - Love it (with Band-in-a-Box 2018)

YouTube channel EmtpyHallToones uploaded a video of their guitar performance using Band-in-a-Box backing tracks!

Click here to watch.

Get to Know the 202 NEW RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box® 2018!

We released 202 NEW RealTracks with Band-in-a-Box® 2018! Learn more about these new RealTracks when you watch our video, Band-in-a-Box® 2018 - 202 NEW RealTracks.

These new RealTracks (in Sets 278-300) are included in every Band-in-a-Box® 2018 UltraPAK, Audiophile Edition, or the PlusPAK upgrade - the Mac packages are on sale until June 30th!

Learn even more about the new RealTracks and listen to demos here.

Vocal "Oohs" and "Aahs" RealTracks Tutorial Video for Mac

With Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac®, we've introduced Vocal "Oohs" and "Aahs" RealTracks. This video shows you the different ways you can use these versatile new RealTracks.

Video link: www.pgmusic.com/?vid=zkO-AtAPv4g

You can also listen to demos of RealTracks Set 278: Shiny Vocal Oohs & Aahs here.

This RealTracks Set is available for just $29, and is also included in RealPAK 14: Country, and the Band-in-a-Box® UltraPAK, Audiophile, or 2018 PlusPAK Upgrade.

Forum Stats
27617 Members
50 Forums
52232 Topics
432378 Posts

Max Online: 2434 @ 11/14/17 12:37 AM
Newest Members
donbaxter, Jose-Luis-NZ, Cipher, BillyP, fleahead

27616 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Icelander 197
Noel96 173
David Snyder 146
Janice & Bud 142
rsdean 116
Deryk - PG Music 114
Pipeline 108
Scott C 98
eddie1261 - gone 97
MarioD 94
Today's Birthdays
jm12947, Morais