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#425075 - 08/07/17 07:23 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac
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It would be useful to forum members and potential customers if PG Music published a feature comparison chart of Band-in-a-Box for Windows features as compared to features available in Band-in-a-Box for Mac.

I suggest the chart indicate: features that are the same in the current edition of both versions, similar but slightly different and exists in one but not the other.

An example of a feature available in both versions might be includes chord sheet window.

An example of a feature that might differ slightly might be keyboard shortcuts.

An example of a feature that exists in only one version might be includes RealBand.
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#425083 - 08/07/17 08:48 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Good idea Jim.
Also it would help Windows Users know how to support or recommend ideas to Mac users, by ensuring the feature exists before suggestion options.
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#425117 - 08/08/17 06:26 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Good idea Jim.
Also it would help Windows Users know how to support or recommend ideas to Mac users, by ensuring the feature exists before suggestion options.
+1



I agree.

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#425119 - 08/08/17 06:49 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: Jim Fogle]
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I know this has been asked before and has not been addressed to date. If someone would send me the Mac BIAB 2017 User Guide, I'd be happy to run it against the Windows features to get something started that can be posted. It might take a month or so, but then we could have something to reference.
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#425160 - 08/08/17 11:20 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Don't forget, there have been one or two features in the Mac version that the PC version did not have. And there's Garageband...
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#425173 - 08/08/17 12:16 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Good idea Jim. Also it would help Windows Users know how to support or recommend ideas to Mac users, by ensuring the feature exists before suggestion options.
+1


I can't take credit for the idea. Forum member Islansoul presented the idea in another forum thread. I just put Islansoul's idea in the wishlist section for discussion and to help PG Music become aware of the idea.


Edited by Jim Fogle (08/10/17 05:37 PM)
Edit Reason: clarified remark.
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#425503 - 08/10/17 10:09 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: MarioD]
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Originally Posted By: MarioD
Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Good idea Jim.
Also it would help Windows Users know how to support or recommend ideas to Mac users, by ensuring the feature exists before suggestion options.
+1



I agree.

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For THAT reason alone, I agree. +1
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#429114 - 09/07/17 08:24 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Here's a Mac/Win Menu Comparison, Win users can use it to support Mac users, just pause the videos to read, if you download the video it will play clear:

Watch Mac https://www.dropbox.com/s/iey9mhehz9cdxrq/MacBB_Menu.mp4?dl=0
Download Mac https://www.dropbox.com/s/iey9mhehz9cdxrq/MacBB_Menu.mp4?dl=1

Watch Win https://www.dropbox.com/s/3vh5pejrfyaaoa6/WinBB_Menu.mp4?dl=0
Download Win https://www.dropbox.com/s/3vh5pejrfyaaoa6/WinBB_Menu.mp4?dl=1

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#429285 - 09/09/17 06:16 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Thanks Pipeline.
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#450376 - 01/10/18 03:37 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: Jim Fogle]
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#450476 - 01/11/18 07:27 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Yes, I would love that. It would be nice to see what both versions offer.
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#461187 - 03/08/18 02:35 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Don't forget, there have been one or two features in the Mac version that the PC version did not have.
Oh really?! shocked
If you'll excuse me, but I don't think for a second you'll be able to back that statement up.
C'mon, I'll make it easier for you - Since you said "one or two", how about you name just two, then? No wait, I'll make it even easier for you - Name ONE! wink

p.s. And by the way, Garageband is entirely unrelated to PG, let alone BBox, and with absolutely none of the BBox-tailored functions of either RealBand or Powertrack - so that doesn't count.
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#461189 - 03/08/18 02:44 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: Jim Fogle]
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And with that off my chest - I'm extremely pleased to see this thread, and from a PC user at that cool
Even more pleasing for the fact that it's getting backed up entirely from other PC users (a nice change from the "You chose Mac, just go PC or get stuffed" crowd amongst them).


Edited by Icelander (03/08/18 02:45 PM)
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#461202 - 03/08/18 03:38 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: Icelander]
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Originally Posted By: Icelander
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Don't forget, there have been one or two features in the Mac version that the PC version did not have.
Oh really?! shocked
If you'll excuse me, but I don't think for a second you'll be able to back that statement up.
C'mon, I'll make it easier for you - Since you said "one or two", how about you name just two, then? No wait, I'll make it even easier for you - Name ONE! wink

p.s. And by the way, Garageband is entirely unrelated to PG, let alone BBox, and with absolutely none of the BBox-tailored functions of either RealBand or Powertrack - so that doesn't count.

Here is one. I was referring to this post #227021, December 9, 2013 by Peter Gannon.

Also, the Mac version is much simpler in terms of audio. There are no issues with latency, or drivers. There is built-in MIDI on the Mac, and it syncs up automatically with the audio. On the Windows side, there are drivers to pick, and latency issues (making it difficult to play along), and ASIO driver problems etc.

Look at all the problems in the PC version threads and you'll see the beauty of not having to answer questions on these two subjects.
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#461216 - 03/08/18 05:49 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Here is one. I was referring to this post

Also, the Mac version is much simpler in terms of audio...

The issue I have with that tune (which obviously I've heard before) is that, like with Garageband, this is something that is not a feature added or implemented into the Mac version of BBox by PG Music. And that is a Key Distinction.
Yet they use this example every chance they get to point out something in favour of the Mac version of BBox - case in point your very quote.

p.s. And just to be clear, none of what I've said (ever) on this subject is to be taken as any form of "attack" on PC users. So you need not feel like you have anything to "defend" here. smile
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#461218 - 03/08/18 05:56 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: Icelander]
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I think Matt has a Mac now so he will have both versions to compare and help out Mac users also.

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#461219 - 03/08/18 06:00 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Really? Brilliant cool

I just hope we've prepared him for the 'culture shock', heh grin
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#461245 - 03/08/18 07:43 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: Jim Fogle]
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My signature indicates my setup. So far I am very impressed by what I have with the Mac version, but not so much by some of the users.
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#461249 - 03/08/18 08:10 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
So far I am very impressed by what I have with the Mac version, but not so much by some of the users.


+1


Edited by raymb1 (03/08/18 09:07 PM)
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#461261 - 03/08/18 11:09 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Band-in-a-Box Feature Comparison Chart - Windows Versus Mac [Re: raymb1]
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The main thing I miss is the Piano Roll Editor, you get so used to it using in the Win version so when you are on the Mac you go looking for it then remember, oh no that's right..

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