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Hi,

In the mixer, if I go the plugins tab, and click on a VST plugin (e.g., Pianoteq), I get that plugin's window.

If I close that window by hitting the X in the upper right corner, all is fine. The window goes away as expected.

BUT... if I (by mistake) minimize that window by hitting the - in the upper right, I can't seem to ever get it back, without restarting band-in-a-box. Is there a way to do so, or is this a bug?

(This is a hassle because minimizing windows is almost instinctual, so I do it by mistake with some frequency.)

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Hi Steve,

I don't have an answer for you about the why the behaviour is as it is but I've found that using ALT+TAB to scroll through the active Windows (not just he BIAB windows) will usually bring me back to the VST Window.

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I experimented with the issue on my system. The window minimized to the lower left corner and the top was visible and the expand buttons were visible to restore the window with each attempt.

I assigned different vst's for the different instruments as well as applying some of the PGMusic DxI's and that had no effect on the window and restoration of the window for each track worked.

It's working as it should on my system.

Have you tried to open the Plugins window from another track when you've minimized a window. In other words, if you accidentally minimized the bass track, attempt to open the plugins window from the piano track and you should have the option to select the bass track from that window and close it properly.


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Hi, Thanks for the replies.

Sadly, neither of the solutions mentioned work for me.

I am running biab 2018, 513.

When you say you it "in the lower left corner" can you show me a screen shot?

I tried Alt Tab, and it is not there.

This seems like a bug, and maybe i should screen share with support?

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As a test, try changing your screen settings. I think the screen drivers have trouble working correct at certain settings if the screen is a certain size.


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Hi

I highly suspect that you are using the dreaded Aero theme screen view in your windows, (the one with the semi clear fancy glass borders .) this often make items near the edge of the screen impossible to see.
Right click on desktop and chose personalise and try Windows Classic in Basic themes
Then chose a background wall paper if required
This will also allow you to have the classic top of page menu bar back should you wish.
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Hi Steve,

This screenshot shows the minimized window, highlighted in red.


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Steve,

I've just had a look at the Windows Aero themes as suggested by Mike Head, above.

When I'm running Aero, the minimised icon does not appear (as mentioned by Mike). When I'm not running Aero, I get the icon as as shown by Kent.

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Similar problem with styles, if you minimize the window it locks out everything else. I didn't immediately look for the icon but tried just about everything else. It seems that a pop up window controls what you can do or not, and a minimized one is really hard to find.


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Thanks everybody.

I am not using the Aero theme, or any other theme with transparency.

I am in Win 10, using the recommended resolution of 1920 x 1080.

Kent, I am thinking it might be good to set up a time for a screen share?

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here's little more information...

The problem seems to be related to the setting "Display scaling on high DPI settings" (#5 on the image below).

When I set activated the setting under Compatibility, the minimised icon Kent shows appeared. With the setting not checked, the icon is not available. I'm using Windows 7.

Here's what I did (I'm running an Aero theme on Windows 7)....

1. Right-click on the BIAB shortcut (#1).

2. Selected 'Properties' (#2).

3. Under the 'Compatibility' tab (#3), I set BIAB to run in XP mode (Service Pack 3) (#4).

4. Set the 'Display scaling...' option to active (#5).

5. Exited, started BIAB and tested the minimising of the VSTi/DXi window. The minimised window icon was present.

When I repeated the above and left all settings exactly the same but with the 'Display scaling...' (#5) option unchecked, the minimised window icon was not available. After only very brief testing, this setting seems to have no impact if running a Windows Classic theme.

This seems to suggest that some Windows themes have the scaling setting built-in and that this might be what is causing the issue.

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Thanks for the hint on the Properties.

In windows 10 there is a property called

"Override high DPI scaling behavior. Scaling performed by Application".

If i chose that option, I do see the minimized window!

BUT... this makes all the menus and mixer too small for my eyes to comfortably read. Is there a fix for that?

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Hi Steve,

Strange, that checkbox doesn't do anything noticeable on my machine.

If you right-click on your Desktop and select Display Settings, what's selected for "size of text, apps, and other items"?

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Hi Kent,

On my box, that setting is "150% (recommended)"

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Hi Steve,

OK, I see what's going on. 100% is the default setting (and is the one marked "recommended" on every computer I've ever used). 150% magnifies icons and applications to make things easier to read, but a lot less stuff fits on your screen. It's basically like using a very low screen resolution, and Band-in-a-Box (and a lot of other programs) generally won't display very well with settings like that.

When you check that "Override high DPI scaling behavior. Scaling performed by Application" box, this causes Band-in-a-Box to ignore your magnification setting, and display Band-in-a-Box how it was intended to appear.

I'd say your options are to keep that box checked or turn off magnification (this may require upgrading to a larger monitor), or start making a habit of closing the Plugins window instead of minimizing it.

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I needed to know about that and this thread has helped me a lot,
Thank you so much.
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