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Okay - just a quick couple of questions for the group.
Why are you making (and assuming recording/distributing) music?
Are you supplementing your live performances with backing tracks?
Are you recording your songs to create something to sell at your gigs?
Are you strictly into the studio/recording side and don't perform live?
Is it just a hobby or your livelihood?
Or do you want it to develop into your livelihood?
In a nutshell - what is your end game? Where do you see your music next year or in 5 years?
Would love to know your thoughts.
Thanks!
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Okay - just a quick couple of questions for the group.
Why are you making (and assuming recording/distributing) music? Enjoyment and music education
Are you supplementing your live performances with backing tracks? No, I don't play live.
Are you recording your songs to create something to sell at your gigs? No, I don't gig.
Are you strictly into the studio/recording side and don't perform live? I'm learning about music production, being a producer, mixing, the use of effects and song arrangement. I do not perform live.
Is it just a hobby or your livelihood? hobby.
Or do you want it to develop into your livelihood? No.
In a nutshell - what is your end game? Where do you see your music next year or in 5 years? Music production is constantly evolving. I see myself in the role of permanent apprentice, constantly learning.
Would love to know your thoughts.
Thanks!
Jim
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Thanks for playing along - in all fairness, here are mine:
Why are you making (and assuming recording/distributing) music? ]Want to expand into developing production music for sale.
Are you supplementing your live performances with backing tracks? No - when I play a larger gig, I usually have a group of other musicians that I'll have join me. For example, I'm playing a music festival in a couple of weeks and will be pulling together a bass, percussionist, mandolin and blues harp player.
Are you recording your songs to create something to sell at your gigs? It's nice to have them for promotion, but not to sell.
Are you strictly into the studio/recording side and don't perform live? I do both.
Is it just a hobby or your livelihood? Would like it to get to the point of being a source of supplemental income when I decide to retire.
Or do you want it to develop into your livelihood? More like a hobby that pays for itself.
In a nutshell - what is your end game? Where do you see your music next year or in 5 years? Continuing to play live, record and distribute for film scores (just did an Irish independent film), and have a source of income that generates a couple hundred a month in royalties or royalty free sales.
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Okay - just a quick couple of questions for the group.
Why are you making (and assuming recording/distributing) music?
As much as anything for fun but I also like really nice backing tracks
Are you supplementing your live performances with backing tracks?
Yes I use the backing tracks for live performances
Are you recording your songs to create something to sell at your gigs?
No I have no interest in selling.
Are you strictly into the studio/recording side and don't perform live?
Is it just a hobby or your livelihood?
These days essentially a hobby but I also help others.
Or do you want it to develop into your livelihood?
Been there done that many years ago now it is for fun
In a nutshell - what is your end game? Where do you see your music next year or in 5 years?
The end game is to keep learning, keep busy and enjoying life to stave off alzheimers.
Would love to know your thoughts.
Thanks!
Jim These are my thoughts Tony
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Okay - just a quick couple of questions for the group.
Why are you making (and assuming recording/distributing) music? It's what I love doing.
Are you supplementing your live performances with backing tracks? I use BIAB backing tracks for my original songs in my solo shows. I haven't tried making BIAB tracks for covers yet but it will be in my near future.
Are you recording your songs to create something to sell at your gigs? Yes, My last album was created using BIAB and I sell them at my shows.
Are you strictly into the studio/recording side and don't perform live? I love both.
Is it just a hobby or your livelihood? I play music for a living.
In a nutshell - what is your end game? Where do you see your music next year or in 5 years? Currently I am working on getting into music licensing. I hope that within a couple years I will have multiple placements that will be providing a steady income. Ultimately, I hope that one day when I can't play live shows anymore I will be able to survive off of royalties form licensing deals.
Would love to know your thoughts.
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Jim
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Years into retirement so...writing for fun, collaborating for fun, recording for fun, mixing/mastering for fun and sharing for fun. Nothing else. Fun trumps everything. And should it become no fun (as so became our final band years) then we will stop on a dime as we have plenty of other fun things to spend time on! Interesting questions. Cheers J&B PS Now how many times did I just type fun? 
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Okay - just a quick couple of questions for the group.
Why are you making (and assuming recording/distributing) music?
I enjoy playing and learning. I am playing genres now that I never could play when I was gigging.
Are you supplementing your live performances with backing tracks?
I no long play out.
Are you recording your songs to create something to sell at your gigs?
No, I do not gig anymore.
Are you strictly into the studio/recording side and don't perform live?
Yes, and I really enjoy it.
Is it just a hobby or your livelihood?
hobby
Or do you want it to develop into your livelihood?
No, I retired from work and gigging.
In a nutshell - what is your end game? Where do you see your music next year or in 5 years?
Hopefully getting better and better.
Would love to know your thoughts.
Thanks!
Jim
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Why are you making (and assuming recording/distributing) music?
Because I am an extreme loner and my songs are the only real way I can tell my stories to people.
Are you supplementing your live performances with backing tracks?
I don't play live right now. When I hit the road in the RV I plan to offer my services to the RV parks and maybe some small coffee shop places in whatever town I am in.
Are you recording your songs to create something to sell at your gigs?
Yes.
Are you strictly into the studio/recording side and don't perform live?
Right now, yes.
Is it just a hobby or your livelihood?
Hobby. I am retired and have no livelihood.
Or do you want it to develop into your livelihood?
Been there. Done that. Have the t-shirt from the last band.
In a nutshell - what is your end game? Where do you see your music next year or in 5 years?
In 5 years I just want to still be alive.
I actually walked out of an interview for an IT job because they asked me that cliche interview question that means absolutely nothing. I said "We are no even guaranteed a tomorrow and you are asking me about 5 years from now? Thank you for your time." And as I started to walk out they stopped me, and I got the job.
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Why are you making (and assuming recording/distributing) music?
Solely because I have and use Band in a Box. Prior to owning BB, I would go for periods up to a year without picking up an instrument to play. Since acquiring BB, I make music or experiment with techniques or problem solving issues I read about here on the forum daily.
Are you supplementing your live performances with backing tracks?
Not for myself. I make backing tracks for others as well as teach keyboard players how to use mp3 (BB) backing tracks and to program their own midi styles for their live performances.
Are you recording your songs to create something to sell at your gigs?
I record my songs as demos attempting to persuade someone else to play and sing them.
Are you strictly into the studio/recording side and don't perform live?
Yes, strictly studio recording. Over the past year I have been peripherally involved in two mainstream gospel recordings assisting with creating BB demo tracks as well as providing BB/RB/DAW completed backing/accompaniment tracks that will be included in the final commercial recording. A third project is pending with one of the producers, who I understand has won a Grammy. That project has been pending prior to either of the other two projects starting by at least a year.... That initial pending project led to my involvement in the other two projects.
Is it just a hobby or your livelihood?
I'm retired and live comfortably in retirement.
Or do you want it to develop into your livelihood?
Opportunities have come from my involvement in these projects to create individual, custom tracks for other projects. This has also expanded into providing a marketplace to provide custom individual tracks to home recording enthusiasts who either want to replace their own playing with a better track than they can play themself, or with an instrument they can't play and a live musician is not readily available.
In a nutshell - what is your end game? Where do you see your music next year or in 5 years?
I have not formulated a business plan for my music but I believe there is a lot of opportunity to grow a business providing tracks for projects if someone is willing to work at it.
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Okay - just a quick couple of questions for the group.
Why are you making (and assuming recording/distributing) music? I can't help it. Playing music is the most fun I can have with my clothes on Are you supplementing your live performances with backing tracks? Yes, and I make my own tracks, sometimes with the help of BiaB -- see http://www.nortonmusic.com/backing_tracks.htmlAre you recording your songs to create something to sell at your gigs? No. I have a busy gigging schedule, and with the BiaB aftermarket business, I don't have the time. Are you strictly into the studio/recording side and don't perform live? I've done recording as a 'sax for hire' in major studios like Motown and small local ones as well, and I'm good at it, but I prefer to play live in front of an audience. Is it just a hobby or your livelihood? It's my livelihood - I've paid off the mortgage of my house, owned a sailboat, taken vacations to 49 US states, much of North and Central America, The Caribbean, quite a bit of Europe, China and Northern Africa too. Or do you want it to develop into your livelihood?
In a nutshell - what is your end game? Where do you see your music next year or in 5 years?
Would love to know your thoughts.
Thanks!
Jim My End Game? While I was on the road to being famous once, that dream broke down over money (they didn't want to pay). Right now my end game is to gig until I can no longer fog a mirror. I'm at retirement age, but I have no plans for that. Being a musician is not what I do, it's what I AM. The end game is "The Great Gig In The Sky"  Insights and incites by Notes
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Notes Norton.
"I can't help it. Playing music is the most fun I can have with my clothes on"
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Maybe you would have twice the fun playing music with you clothes off...:)
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Okay - just a quick couple of questions for the group.
Why are you making (and assuming recording/distributing) music?
It's therapeutic and helps keep me sane in this crazy world. And I totally enjoy getting lost in the music.
Are you supplementing your live performances with backing tracks?
I don't play live gigs anymore.
Are you recording your songs to create something to sell at your gigs?
I don't play live gigs anymore
Are you strictly into the studio/recording side and don't perform live?
Yes. Playing live was fun but that season is done. I don't miss the drama and the late night drive home at 3am one least little bit
Is it just a hobby or your livelihood?
Hobby
Or do you want it to develop into your livelihood?
It would be fun but it's a lot of work to take it to that level and I really am not interested in working that hard on building a musical career business.
In a nutshell - what is your end game? Where do you see your music next year or in 5 years?
I will keep doing what I do because I enjoy it. I write music for fun. I enjoy the process. I also write for the occasional TV and Film placement. A few of my songs were picked up and are being used in TV and Films. Most of that is never posted here for people to listen to. I get a few dollars in the royalty checks and it's a nice ego boost to know what I write has some commercial value to someone out there in the professional world outside the doors of my humble studio. I also enjoy helping others get to the point where they are doing something useful with their music if that's what they want to do. At this point, it's all about passing the knowledge to the ones coming up and helping them.
Would love to know your thoughts.
well, there you have it.
Thanks!
Jim
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Notes Norton.
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Maybe you would have twice the fun playing music with you clothes off...:)
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Beatmaster and Axey, We play at a nudist camp a couple of times a year. But I keep my pants on. I guess I'm just a little shy. Notes
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Why are you making (and assuming recording/distributing) music?
Because I love it and it is something that makes me feel alive!
Are you supplementing your live performances with backing tracks?
Not much any more. I used to use backing tracks, both the purchased karaoke ones and ones I made with BIAB. Now I tend to play acoustic.
Are you recording your songs to create something to sell at your gigs?
Yes definitely! I play at our National Arts Festival and people LOVE to purchase an album as a type of memento of the show and to support the artists
Are you strictly into the studio/recording side and don't perform live?
I perform live quite a bit. I do live streaming, our National Arts Festival, the local Acoustic Music Club, open mic nights, jam evenings, local farmers markets, restaurants and private events
Is it just a hobby or your livelihood?
I would say it is a paying hobby. I get money from gigs. I get money from my First Music With BIAB course. My Youtube channel is starting to take off and brings in a couple of hundred a month plus I have a large catalogue of music on Apple Music, Spotify etc. BUT I do work in my day job as a IT Business Analyst so music is not my livelihood.
Or do you want it to develop into your livelihood?
I am miracle ready!! I would hope to find a niche but I am not too sure what that is just yet. I think Youtube is saturated. I think music licensing is saturated. I think Spotify and Apple music are saturated. Doing the singer-songwriter/touring thing is too hard. Maybe it is in Musicoin or online teaching/courses? I am not sure...
In a nutshell - what is your end game? Where do you see your music next year or in 5 years?
I cant see myself retiring from my IT job in the near future because I also love that. I love getting up every morning, putting on my high heels and makeup and having somewhere to go to to work. ...I also like that the income affords me the opportunity to do things that I love to do, like sailing, skiing and travelling...that said if I did hit on something very successful music wise I would consider using music as my full time occupation.
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Beatmaster and Axey, We play at a nudist camp a couple of times a year. But I keep my pants on. I guess I'm just a little shy. Notes I'll bet THAT's an interesting gig. Somewhere between revulsion and O.M.G!!!
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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We play at a nudist camp a couple of times a year. But I keep my pants on. I guess I'm just a little shy. The heck with you and your pants, Notes!! What does that gorgeous wife of yours do???? 
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We both dress minimally at the nudist camp.
The first gig there a few years ago was a Halloween party. We told them we weren't comfortable playing nude, and they said many of the bands don't play nude, and it's OK. She also said since it's Halloween some will come in costume, but there is no guarantee the costumes won't come off before long.
So Leilani had a flesh colored unitard and she died a t-shirt and pair of skivvies flesh colored for me. Then we made black rectangles out of cardboard and placed them over our sensitive areas. Did another over our eyes with cutouts for sunglasses. So we looked like old-fashioned censoring before pixelating. We went as censored nudes, and they loved it. They have a great sense of humor.
Playing at a nudist camp is neither sexy nor repulsive. Bodies come in all shapes and sizes there is even a guy in his nineties who does much of the decorating, some overweight folks, and some young beautiful people as well. But after the first half hour of the first time we gigged there, it just started to feel normal.
They are a fun group of people and we enjoy the gig.
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I am getting my first chance to read back through the responses. And I absolutely love the diversity of how everyone uses they're music. The one theme that seems to weave its way through is that music is therapeutic and we do it because we have to do it, because we love to do it, because we would probably go crazy if we didn't. Thank you so much for playing along with this little game and being so open and candid. Hopefully there will be more responses as I love reading about how different people are at different places musically but all seem to gravitate to that central theme.
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Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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