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#471930 - 05/08/18 06:09 PM [User Showcase] "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad
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So here we are near the mid of May and still we've been having snow in the air. Even for Iceland, that's pushing it smirk

That's basically the sentiment from which this song comes from (another 'co-written' by BBox & myself piece); sitting at the frosty window on a chilly but calm evening, with that longing for winter to be over.
I give you: WHEN WINTER LEAVES... - Enjoy! cool

Formalities:

Style is _WINTER.STY

RealTracks in style: ~2311:Bass, Acoustic, JazzBalladRonA-B Sw 085
RealTracks in style: ~743:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm Jazz Ballad Sw 060 (A:simple)
RealTracks in song: ~1499:Guitar, Electric, SoloAccompaniment JazzBallad Sw 060
RealTracks in style: 2792:Horn Section, Background CroonerBallad11-Part Sw 060
RealDrums: RealDrums in Style: JazzSwingLewis


Other instruments performed by yours truly.


p.s. Yes, I'm aware of the double-meaning of 'winter leaves', I can be clever like that wink
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#471977 - 05/08/18 11:50 PM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: Icelander]
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Cool idea - I reckon you should double the horn section - add a harmony or almost duplicate group and throw them on the other side with a good chunk of reverb across both.
The horn solo is fine but seems odd not having the centre of the stereo image when the vibes - whilst stereo, seem centred.
The main melody is a little bright and could use a little top end roll off.
Nice work.
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#471979 - 05/09/18 12:21 AM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: Icelander]
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Sounding very festive. Rob

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#471986 - 05/09/18 01:40 AM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: Icelander]
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Eddie,

Great - a very rich and melodic sound. Pro mix.

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#472038 - 05/09/18 08:45 AM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: Icelander]
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Beautiful melody and tranquil arrangement interpreting nicely the longing for the end of winter. I can still remember 1.5 months ago when I was longing the same thing here in Finland. Now it's great spring here, I really hope it will arrive there too very soon smile

Janne

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#472069 - 05/09/18 10:43 AM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: rayc]
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Thanks for the constructive observations, Mr. Ray, Let me just give my take on these:

"you should double the horn section - add a harmony or almost duplicate group and throw them on the other side with a good chunk of reverb across both."

Absolutely not, for that would completely overpower the intended 'tranquil' sentiment! Besides, I'm a huge believer in the 'less is more' principle, which I certainly feel is warranted here.

"The horn solo is fine but seems odd not having the centre of the stereo image when the vibes - whilst stereo, seem centred."

I actually went back and forth on this, but the basis for my choice here was to minimise the risk of clashing with the similar sounding horns (which are in fact also panned a tad off centre, but to the opposite side). Also, in a live setting, these two instruments, trombone and vibes, wouldn't both be at the centre, that's just practically implausible, and I tried to reflect that... but maybe I overdid it, it's a mileage-may-vary case for sure.

"The main melody is a little bright and could use a little top end roll off."

I suspect speakers & ears on each end are a vital factor here, but fair enuff. I was aiming to contrast the booming low end of the bass (and guitar to some extent) and may have overdone it. Also, I used some EZ Mix, a set of plugs/effects that I only recently bought and am still finding my ways with, on this project to give the lead a slight 'ethereal' sound, which maybe worked and maybe not so much. So I'll give you this one.... maybe wink

Thanks for taking the time to give advices & feedback cool
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#472070 - 05/09/18 10:46 AM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: jannesan]
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Originally Posted By: jannesan
I can still remember 1.5 months ago when I was longing the same thing here in Finland. Now it's great spring here, I really hope it will arrive there too very soon smile

Janne
Thanks for that sentiment, and I'm happy to say it's now turned to proper rain over here...so we're getting there, day by day smile
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#472175 - 05/09/18 06:05 PM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: rsdean]
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Originally Posted By: rsdean
Eddie,

Great - a very rich and melodic sound. Pro mix.

Bob
Much obliged, and after just a quick peek at your channel, you've made a 'follower' out of me already smile
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#472234 - 05/10/18 06:29 AM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: Icelander]
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Nice work here smile You definitely captured wintery vibe. It has a very chilled out atmosphere to it. Very easy on the ears, and very delicate and pristine sounding.

Thanks for sharing!
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#472260 - 05/10/18 10:12 AM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: Deryk - PG Music]
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Originally Posted By: Deryk - PG Music
Nice work here smile You definitely captured wintery vibe.
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Thanks for sharing!
Thanks likewise for listening, let alone commenting...Nice little pun in there, btw, loved it wink
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#472419 - 05/11/18 10:43 AM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: Icelander]
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Wonderful tune!! I could listen to this for an hour! Take care. Greg

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#472427 - 05/11/18 11:09 AM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: Greg Johnson]
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Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
Wonderful tune!! I could listen to this for an hour! Take care. Greg
Wow, for an hour?! crazy

Man, I don't know if to thank you or pity you, hah laugh
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#472451 - 05/11/18 03:27 PM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: Icelander]
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Hey Icelander, definitely my kind of tune as you probably know if you have listened to my stuff. I loved it, period. On a side note; don't you love it when your tune gets stripped right and left and then "it's all good though ". Just saying.

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#472456 - 05/11/18 04:02 PM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: cubanpete]
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Originally Posted By: cubanpete
On a side note; don't you love it when your tune gets stripped right and left and then "it's all good though ". Just saying.
hehehe, I know exactly what you're talking about there grin

But actually I don't mind these inputs at all. It often takes other people's eyes & ears to spot the many path choices one could've taken and plain missed. Ok, so it can also sometimes turn into little more than an ill-disguised "I know better than you do", but that sort of thing I find easy to brush off. The pro of other people's insight outweighs the con... most of the time wink

Here it just gave me a chance for a followup post to share my thoughts on why I made the choices I did, without making my initial post too long (or come across as unwanted information overload).

So I guess in this case it really is "all good" cool

p.s. glad you simply liked the song, btw
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#472463 - 05/11/18 05:05 PM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: Icelander]
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Originally Posted By: Icelander
Thanks for the constructive observations, Mr. Ray, Let me just give my take on these:
Absolutely not, for that would completely overpower the intended 'tranquil' sentiment! Besides, I'm a huge believer in the 'less is more' principle, which I certainly feel is warranted here.
Also, in a live setting, these two instruments, trombone and vibes, wouldn't both be at the centre, that's just practically implausible, and I tried to reflect that... but maybe I overdid it, it's a mileage-may-vary case for sure.
I suspect speakers & ears on each end are a vital factor here, but fair enuff. I was aiming to contrast the booming low end of the bass (and guitar to some extent) and may have overdone it. Also, I used some EZ Mix, a set of plugs/effects that I only recently bought and am still finding my ways with, on this project to give the lead a slight 'ethereal' sound, which maybe worked and maybe not so much. So I'll give you this one.... maybe wink
Thanks for taking the time to give advices & feedback cool

I'm just making suggestions based on what I heard.
That is the point of sharing isn't it?
Each listener will filter a song according to their own notions and either ignore their thoughts and congratulate you or congratulate you and make suggestions according to those filters & notions.
The downside of this Showcase forum is that it is, essentially, for "finished" songs. there's no intermediate forum for tracks "in progress". I'm keen for suggestions for my work.
One universal suggestion though:
As is often recommended - listen to your mix in mono - if the levels and tones are spot on then it's time to pan instruments into a stereo field.
I'd add:
In your case, given your desire to replicate the live situation & era, why not mix to mono like an old 78? Plenty of plugs out there to add crackle & pop too.


Edited by rayc (05/11/18 05:13 PM)
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#472468 - 05/11/18 05:44 PM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: rayc]
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Originally Posted By: rayc
I'm just making suggestions based on what I heard.
That is the point of sharing isn't it?
Uhm..is it!? I can't quite tell if you're actually asking me or just telling me. After all, they say 90% of all questions are actually statements wink
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Originally Posted By: rayc
I'm keen for suggestions for my work.
Glad to hear it. How that pertains to me and my work, however, I do not know - and no, I'm not asking.

p.s. I will however give you credit for mending your post from how I read it in my email just now. A very wise move.
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#472511 - 05/12/18 05:09 AM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: Icelander]
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I think I'll just accept that we, generally, disagree.
Let your music, or perhaps the P.S. in your original post, speak for you.
I don't need your credit just as you don't need the suggestions I had made in, and then excised from, my reply.
I'll keep my distance.
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#472613 - 05/12/18 07:21 PM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: Icelander]
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This is a very pretty tune. Forgot how nice the xylophone sounds. Thanks for sharing...
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#472620 - 05/12/18 08:00 PM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: Scott C]
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Originally Posted By: Scott C
Thanks for sharing...
Thanks likewise for listening smile
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#472741 - 05/13/18 11:57 PM [User Showcase] Re: "When Winter Leaves..." - Soothing, slow 'Big Band' ballad [Re: Icelander]
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Nice and mellow, a pleasant listen.

Is this your response to "Autumn Leaves"? Will be get the full Four Season suite? Maybe "Vivaldi Leaves" or something... wink

It could be my speakers, but it sounds like there's some sort of compression artifact going on between the brush and the snare. It's probably something SoundCloud is doing, I doubt it's something in the original mix.
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