Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,986
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,986
BIAB was silent but this happened on the last update too. Control panel playback devices showed that my default playback device was no longer selected.

Last edited by Bob Calver; 05/17/18 02:58 AM.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 265
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 265
Didn't happen here...this time. wink


Jim
Psalm 33:3 Sing unto him a new song; play skillfully with a loud noise.

BIAB 2018 build 519; Dell Inspiron N4110, Windows 10 64 bit, Intel Core i3-2350m running at 2.29 GHz, Memory: 6 GB DDR3, SDRAM 1MHz
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,382
K
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
K
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,382
Hi Bob,

Did it revert to another audio device, or just turn off your sound altogether?

Thanks
Kent
PG Music

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,986
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,986
just turned off sound as far as I remember - it had done it before so this time i was prepared. the default player was no longer default. simple fix as i knew what was going on this time

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,986
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,986
just to be clear the update changed windows settings available through control panel not any BIAB settings

the default playback device was deselected so no sound from the pc

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 146
V
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
V
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 146
Just update Win10, ver. 1803, BIAB can not load WAS.
The Window Audio session error:"Could not find device that matches the name.The error number is -9985 "

Last edited by Vincente; 05/20/18 04:16 PM.

WIN11 OS build 23H2, 16MB, 1TG SSD.
BIAB2024, build 1109, MegaPaK
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,099
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,099
Vincente,

What version and build of Band-in-a-Box are you using?

The -9985 error was first noted after the initial release of 2018. The error was corrected in a later release. If you're using 2018, update to build 516. You can download it +++ HERE +++.

Also, if you haven't done this yet, right click on the Band-in-a-Box desktop icon, click on the "Advance" button and enable the "Run As Administrator" checkbox.


Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1109) RB (Build 3) Ultra+ PAK
Cakewalk - Zoom MRS-8 recorder
Desktop: i7 Win 10 build 2004, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Laptop: i3 64bit Win 10 build 21H2, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 146
V
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
V
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 146
Jim Fogle,
My BIAB2018, update build 516, ran as Adm.
Before update to window10 build 1803, everything was fine.

There're many problems and complaints about win10, 1803.
DO NOT UPDATE YET
https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-april-2018-update-biggest-user-problems-and-complaints

Last edited by Vincente; 05/22/18 04:41 PM.

WIN11 OS build 23H2, 16MB, 1TG SSD.
BIAB2024, build 1109, MegaPaK
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,099
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,099
Hi Vincente,

Thank you for sharing your experience with Windows 10, version 1803. I hope you have rolled back the update and your computer now works as it did before the update.

My computer still has Windows 7 so my computer was not affected by the update.


Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1109) RB (Build 3) Ultra+ PAK
Cakewalk - Zoom MRS-8 recorder
Desktop: i7 Win 10 build 2004, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Laptop: i3 64bit Win 10 build 21H2, 8GB ram 500GB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,838
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,838
I did update windows 10 to latest build on two partitions on my main music computer and on a separate computer as well.

ALl went well enough though when I started biab no sound, clicked the sound icon on the taskbar and I think it was set to heaphones, changed to speakers again and all was well.

SO yes I think it is very possible it can change playback device.

Otherwise went well.


Musiclover

My music https://www.youtube.com/user/donegalprideofall

Windows 10 (64bit) M-Audio Fast Track Pro, Band in a Box 2024, Cubase 13, Cakewalk and far too many VST plugins that I probably don't need or will ever use smile
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,800
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,800
I’ve had this happen. No matter how often I uninstall it, Windows keeps adding back an HD Audio driver for my monitor.

Why?

It has also flipped my audio to the WAS driver which, on my system, doesn’t work well.


BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,114
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,114
HI Mat
Normally you get this hd sound driver for when the hd monitor is connected to the system by a HDMI lead , and as such it is part of that driver.
As they assume you would want your sound and video to come from the same location for movies etc,
I get over this in w7 as below
This gives me the following behaviour :

If the AKAI audio interface is present and switched on at win start up this will be my default. as in pic.

If the AKAI is not present or off, but the HD monitor is in use that comes up next instead.and the sound comes from the 32” monitor.

If I am using the laptop away from my set up say as a portable, as neither the AKAI or the HD monitor is in use it falls through to the on board sound card and laptop speakers.
As a standalone.
All the above applies to the windows side of things

However I do have to make sure that BIAB knows which one I am using at any time
As obviously it remembers my Audio settings and drivers.
The same is true for most of my other music software unless it relies on using the current windows driver in use.
Just my thoughts
Mike

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
sound-1 copy.jpg (209.32 KB, 146 downloads)

BIAB2021 UltraPlus,AsusN55S1Tbssd, W10/64,Akai EIEpro
Yamaha CVP405,SquireStrat, CoolsoftVMidSynth
Novatation Impulse61 Ctr kbd, Cwalk blab Kontakt

http://mikesmusic.byethost16.com/
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,800
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,800
Thanks Mike. That makes sense when using an HDMI connection, I agree (I still uninstall it) but it also happens on my older Windows 10 PC not using HDMI.

Craig Anderson alerted us to this a year or so ago, and actually determined it made a difference in the performance of SONAR. I’ve been deleting the HD audio driver regularly ever since.


BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
I’ve had this happen. No matter how often I uninstall it, Windows keeps adding back an HD Audio driver for my monitor. Why? It has also flipped my audio to the WAS driver which, on my system, doesn’t work well.


The HD audio driver keeps coming back after uninstalling it, and i have also disabled all RealTek audio on my mainboard's BIOS (ASUS x99). The only way to get rid of this persistent HD, and out of the way on my system, is: disable it in Device Manager, and leave the drivers be .. F

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,475
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,475
correct - just DISABLE, it stays disabled, but uninstalling just allows Win or AMD (or NVIDA or whatever Graphics card you have) to re-install and re-enable it.

ditto OTHER annoying drivers
Larry

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 52
B
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
B
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 52
I updated to the latest Win 10 feature update v1803 and was then unable to start BIAB.

The initial logo came on screen and then a small 'preparing to install' window appeared behind it, and that was that. I tried a few different ways to start BIAB but nothing worked.

I had this problem with a previous Windows feature update.

For now I have reverted to the previous version of Windows and BIAB is back working.

I've delayed the windows update for 90 days but eventually will have to install, so hopefully this problem will be sorted by then.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,335
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,335
Yes to the question, this happens here regularly with Win10 updates.


Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 19
L
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
L
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 19
It got me in a rather strange way. BIAB was playing fine through my focusrite device. But I invoked the "song" wizard from an .mp3 to get tempo and a chord chart. Hit play and NO sound. BIAB ok, wizard dead audio. While on the phone with pgmusic support, they asked me to check my playback device. Sure enough, default Win10 sound card had become internal el cheapo card.

It might be consider a "bug". BIAB was still locked into focusrite, but wizard went to win10 default. But then again, hey Microsoft, pretty sloppy update actions to change settings without permission.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,796
The cure:

Originally Posted By: fiddler2007
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
I’ve had this happen. No matter how often I uninstall it, Windows keeps adding back an HD Audio driver for my monitor. Why? It has also flipped my audio to the WAS driver which, on my system, doesn’t work well.


The HD audio driver keeps coming back after uninstalling it, and i have also disabled all RealTek audio on my mainboard's BIOS (ASUS x99). The only way to get rid of this persistent HD, and out of the way on my system, is: disable it in Device Manager, and leave the drivers be .. F


Originally Posted By: limestone
.... But then again, hey Microsoft, pretty sloppy update actions to change settings without permission.
You'll really need to turn off windows update in services, and if you (accidentally) updated your (1803 only?) with some manually downloaded KB#######, you will need to check/do it again as they pester you occasionally by automatically switching it back on ....

Handy Tool?: Windows Update switch -F

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 68
R
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
R
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 68
I also make sure that my onboard soundcard is disabled in the Bios when I have a much superior USB interface to use. So Windows can never find it. smirk

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!

If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.

A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."

"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."

"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."

Happy Easter! Holiday Hours...

2024 is well underway - it's already Easter Weekend!

Our Customer Service hours this weekend are:

Friday, March 29: 8-4
Saturday, March 30: 8-4
Sunday, March 31: closed

Regular hours resume Monday, April 1st - no joke!

Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!

The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!

There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.

If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.

We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!

Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.

Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed!

Video: Volume Automation in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®

We've created a video to help you learn more about the Volume Automation options in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows.

Band-in-a-Box® 2024: Volume Automation

www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024full/chapter11.htm#volume-automation

Video: Audio Input Monitoring with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®

We've created this short video to explain Audio Input Monitoring within Band-in-a-Box® 2024, and included some tips & troubleshooting details too!

Band-in-a-Box® 2024: Audio Input Monitoring

3:17: Tips
5:10: Troubleshooting

www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024full/chapter11.htm#audio-input-monitoring

Video: Enhanced Melodists in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®!

We've enhanced the Melodists feature included in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows!

Access the Melodist feature by pressing F7 in the program to open the new MultiPicker Library and locate the [Melodist] tab.

You can now generate a melody on any track in the program - very handy! Plus, you select how much of the melody you want generated - specify a range, or apply it to the whole track.

See the Melodist in action with our video, Band-in-a-Box® 2024: The Melodist Window.

Learn even more about the enhancements to the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024upgrade/chapter3.htm#enhanced-melodist

Forum Statistics
Forums66
Topics81,398
Posts732,546
Members38,442
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
Newest Members
danielsk, Mark Morgan, zagrajbarke, Ernest J, Izzy
38,442 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 199
Al-David 133
DC Ron 115
rsdean 85
dcuny 83
Today's Birthdays
(charlie), WobblyGstring
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5