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I want to start off in 3/4 and then go to 4/4 for a few bars. Bar settings seems to have no effect. Any ideas? Thanks
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I want to start off in 3/4 and then go to 4/4 for a few bars. Bar settings seems to have no effect. Any ideas? Thanks This is unfortunately a long time limitation. If you need a mix of 3/4 and 4/4, you must choose a 4/4 style, and then use bar settings at the start to set it to 3/4, then you can change to 4/4 when you need. Note, however, despite the song starting in 3/4 time, you're going to get a 4-beat count-in.
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I would have thought you start with a 3/4 and a 3/4 realstyle then at the appropriate bar set to 4/4 with a 4/4 realstyle. The realstyle will not change its timing by itself.
I could be wrong but this makes sense to me.
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I would have thought you start with a 3/4 and a 3/4 realstyle then at the appropriate bar set to 4/4 with a 4/4 realstyle. The realstyle will not change its timing by itself.
I could be wrong but this makes sense to me.
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Hi Tony, Yes it does make sense. One of BIAB's quirks, though, is that the default, base style has to be the time signature that has the most beats in the bar. As Videotrack says, this means that the initial style has to be 4/4 and then, at bar 1, the style is changed to 3/4 using bar settings. Regards, Noel
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I want to start off in 3/4 and then go to 4/4 for a few bars. Bar settings seems to have no effect. Any ideas? Thanks This is unfortunately a long time limitation. If you need a mix of 3/4 and 4/4, you must choose a 4/4 style, and then use bar settings at the start to set it to 3/4, then you can change to 4/4 when you need. Note, however, despite the song starting in 3/4 time, you're going to get a 4-beat count-in. I'm not sure that is still true. I just set the time signature to 3/4, sorted the styles by 3/4 and I got a 3/4 count-in on both of the styles that I choose. Maybe someone could verify this. Note that I am using the latest BiaB build.
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I want to start off in 3/4 and then go to 4/4 for a few bars. Bar settings seems to have no effect. Any ideas? Thanks This is unfortunately a long time limitation. If you need a mix of 3/4 and 4/4, you must choose a 4/4 style, and then use bar settings at the start to set it to 3/4, then you can change to 4/4 when you need. Note, however, despite the song starting in 3/4 time, you're going to get a 4-beat count-in. I'm not sure that is still true. I just set the time signature to 3/4, sorted the styles by 3/4 and I got a 3/4 count-in on both of the styles that I choose. Maybe someone could verify this. The difference I think here is that you chose multiple styles. The downfall is that this often sounds like you change bands half-way through the song (the drum kit is different, the instruments are different etc). To have consistency in delivery, I need to use the same Style, but play 3/4 then 4/4 by just changing the number of beats in the bar. I can get some sort of success by changing styles, but the audible result is generally not acceptable. The contrast is that it sounds like a different band is suddenly playing.
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The difference I think here is that you chose multiple styles. The downfall is that this often sounds like you change bands half-way through the song (the drum kit is different, the instruments are different etc).
To have consistency in delivery, I need to use the same Style, but play 3/4 then 4/4 by just changing the number of beats in the bar.
I can get some sort of success by changing styles, but the audible result is generally not acceptable. The contrast is that it sounds like a different band is suddenly playing.
OK, I understand now. Changing time signatures and keeping the same instrumentation is where MIDI can excel over RTS.
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Yes, using MIDI would definitely give you total consistency. I'm also still hopeful that they will fix the count-in issue where the count-in is currently matched to the time signature of the style and not the number of beats in the first bar. My hopes have faded a bit over the years though... 
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Ok thanks for the heads up. I think what I'll do is render a wav of 3/4 real and 4/4 real and then mix in sequencer.
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