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#480240 - 07/02/18 05:08 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Provide a List of recorded chords for each RealTrack
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Many user have reported issues with RT's don't playing exactly the requested chords. Sometimes, the given tip is to change of RT...

Even if the Natural Arrangement feature is off, you may not get the chords you want if the RT player did not record the requested chords.

PRESENTLY :
The user has no visibility about the available chords in a given RealTrack.
For ex. we don't know if a X2 chord or a X7#9 or a Xm69 is implemented or not for a given RT
Sometimes he get what he looks for but sometimes not, not a very professional situation.
Also, it is frustating because with MIDI tracks we get what we expect at every time.

PROPOSAL1 :
For each RealTrack, issue a small text file listing all the recorded chords for this RealTrack.
For the Bass RT, issue a small text file listing all the recorded slash chords (for ex A7/C#).

- It looks quite easy to implement
- the *.txt file could be set in the RT folder
- it would give a comprehensive list of the recorded chords
- it would be a really useful tool for the user in order to select the right RT regarding its own chords.
- When a RealTrack is updated, it would easy to update the matching text file.

PROPOSAL2:
Via a WEb Support page, PG Music could provide the information to the user via a on-line file.
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#480273 - 07/02/18 10:51 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Provide a List of recorded chords for each RealTrack [Re: John-Luke]
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+1

This is important and would be helpful.

In the early days of RealTracks I discovered that, if the player had not recorded a chord, the track would just be silent for that chord. mMaj7 was one example.

In the early days of User Tracks, I requested a template where I could play over every chord type, to ensure I had no gaps as above. I never did receive guidance on that.
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#480277 - 07/02/18 11:20 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Provide a List of recorded chords for each RealTrack [Re: John-Luke]
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+1

While either proposal suits the need, I prefer the first proposal of including a text file with each RealTracks simply because the computer does not have to be online.
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#480284 - 07/02/18 12:02 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Provide a List of recorded chords for each RealTrack [Re: Jim Fogle]
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Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle
+1

While either proposal suits the need, I prefer the first proposal of including a text file with each RealTracks simply because the computer does not have to be online.


+1 for proposal #1 also.
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#480287 - 07/02/18 12:34 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Provide a List of recorded chords for each RealTrack [Re: John-Luke]
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Definitely worthy of serious consideration.
Knowing exactly what is / isn't available provides the user with important information. Excellent idea.
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#481298 - 07/10/18 08:53 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Provide a List of recorded chords for each RealTrack [Re: John-Luke]
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#481311 - 07/11/18 03:40 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Provide a List of recorded chords for each RealTrack [Re: Trygve Larsen]
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"- the *.txt file could be set in the RT folder" and a button in the RealTrack picker will open it, you can then paste it in the User Memo box of that track.
A list of chords used in the Holds would also help.

If they don't get around to doing this, someone who's enthusiastic can open BB All Chord.SGU
enable Chord Output in Prefs > Complex Chords, Write to MIDI file
save as MID
open in RealBand
in the RealTrack picker list by RealChart
generate track and RealChart
open the RealChart and BB Chord Output track each in their own window.
Or do it by ear if you have a good ear.
Then when you have done all that have a look what hold the track uses in the Hold column, bb\RealTracks\Library\Holds
play through them.
Put the correct playing chords and the available Holds in a txt for each RT then upload them.
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#481349 - 07/11/18 08:35 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Provide a List of recorded chords for each RealTrack [Re: John-Luke]
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An additional thought: Including a chord list with upcoming RealTracks is desirable but if PG Music started right now that leaves more than 2700 hours of released RealTracks without the feature.

What if: Using Pipeline's posts as a guide, those of us that want the feature volunteer to create a chord list for the existing RealTracks?

Each of us could select some RealTracks, run the selected RealTracks through the Audio Chord Wizard so it can create a chord sheet, create a chord text file and post the file.

What do you think?
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#481367 - 07/11/18 01:14 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Provide a List of recorded chords for each RealTrack [Re: Jim Fogle]
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An additional thought: Including a chord list with upcoming RealTracks is desirable but if PG Music started right now that leaves more than 2700 hours of released RealTracks without the feature.
PG would have all this info for every RT but if they want to do it or get around to do it is anybody's guess.

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What if: Using Pipeline's posts as a guide, those of us that want the feature volunteer to create a chord list for the existing RealTracks?
yes good idea.

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Each of us could select some RealTracks, run the selected RealTracks through the Audio Chord Wizard so it can create a chord sheet, create a chord text file and post the file.
not sure if the ACW would be accurate enough for fancy chords, maybe fancy ears would also help to correct the ACW ?
Doing the actual RT files rather than the BB All Chords.SGU would be good as this would give better UserTrack Templates and these can also be trimmed down to a text list of chords used.
Somewhere back in the forum someone chorded out a RT then replaced it with their own, this may of been the start of the UT idea.
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#481379 - 07/11/18 02:59 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Provide a List of recorded chords for each RealTrack [Re: Jim Fogle]
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@JF if you post this in the main forum you might get some willing participants.

Here's that post Home Made Flamenco Realtracks and Does a contemporary jazz soloist (UserTrack) template exist?
Where can I get the Jazz templates?
Chord Progression template for Usertracks
so this would help a lot to get a list of chords used for each RT and advanced templates for UserTracks creation.
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