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HI Folks,
I'm trying to use BIAB 2018 (Build 258) to create a song that starts in 3/4 for the A section and then moves to 4/4 for the B section.
So far, I've been able to make this works with MIDI, but not with Real Tracks.
Here's what I've done:
1. Pick a 3/4 style for the A section (Bars 1-16)
2. Place my cursor in Bar 17 and right click. Select "Bar Settings"
3. Input "3" into "# Beats this Bar" (I've also tried not doing this)
4. Click STY...
5. Select a 4/4 style
6. Regenerate the song (I've also tried not doing this)
1/2 the time this causes a crash. 1/2 the time it switches styles at Bar 17, but it does not switch to 4/4 time.
I've tried this going from 4/4 to 3/4. No dice.
I've tried saving and re-launching. No go.
I've tried different Real Tracks. Uh uh.
Thoughts?
Kidmuse
iMac 10.13.5 High Sierra
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Hi Kidmuse,
The number of beats in bar 1 dictates the maximum number of beats per bar for the rest of the song. So if you want to be able to switch between 3/4 and 4/4, you'll need to start in 4/4 for at least one bar. If you start in 3/4, then the rest of the song can only have 3/4, 2/4, or 1/4 bars.
Also, when you do use Bar Settings to switch from 3/4 to 4/4, you only need to click STY and choose a 4/4 style, and that will change the time signature automatically. If you also put a 3 in the "#beats this bar" box like you've described, that would override the style's time signature change and force the song to stay in 3/4.
Does this help? Feel free to ask for clarification on any of these points.
Thanks
Kent
PG Music
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Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh
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Hi Kent,
Thanks for your reply. As I said in my post, I've tried this starting a song in 4/4 and going to 3/4 and not putting "3" into the Beats Per Bar.
I just tried it, again, and it still does not work. I will send a song file to your attention and then we can take it from there.
Scott
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Thanks for sending the file. It has the same issue for me too, so I'll have to do some more testing. I'll let you know once I find something.
Cheers
Kent
PG Music
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Hi, It looks like I was wrong about not needing to change the number of beats per bar (that'll show me to reply without testing). Sorry about that.  When going from 4/4 to 3/4, I did need to put a 3 in the "# beats this bar" box, and when going back to 4/4, I needed to enter a 4. In the song you sent, the first style used, TEAK.STY, uses MultiDrums, consisting of the WoodblockEv RealDrums and two loops, congas and shakers. This appears to be causing a problem, even after the number of beats per bar issue is sorted. The Multi-Drums don't seem to want to clear out when the style changes, which messes up the timing for the rest of the song (this appears to be a bug, which I'll test further and report tomorrow). If I change the initial style to something with normal drums, like LAZYBLU.STY, then the Style and meter changes seem to work fine. Does that work for you? I did get one crash while working on this, by the way. If I can narrow down what caused the crash tomorrow, I'll report that as as well. Thanks Kent PG Music
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An alternative could be to create individual files for each part of your song like suggested below:
4/4 part 1 as songx4by4part1.sgu
3/4 part 1 as songx3by4part1.sgu
4/4 part 2 as songx4by4part2.sgu
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ect
Finally take all you parts and export them into a DAW Pro Tools or Logic ProX or similar and then stick it all together in your DAW.
It's a slow process, but for me it provides me full control of each part of the song, and if I'm not satisfied with the rendering and creation from the Real Track algorithm, it takes less time to re-render each part/section of the song.
I used this method, when BIAB2016 was very little cooperative mixing Real Tracks and Midi in the same file, and actually have adopted that method permanently.
(If PG Music staff is now banging their head against the wall in frustration I fully understand it - customers are not following the most elementary logic) :-)
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