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I am not sure where this post belongs. Sorry if I picked the wrong place.
I seem to spend a lot of time working around my ignorance of computer basics and file management. I don't know anything about bit rates or dll files, etc. File management baffles me.
Some knowledge of this stuff seems to be necessary to get things to work. For instance, I can't download Sample Tank and get it to show up in my VST list. I'm sure I am doing it wrong. So I end up calling, they tell me what to do, it works and I am as ignorant as I was.
Can anyone tell me if there are YouTube videos or books on this subject? Maybe computer based recording for dummies? I think it would help me a lot.
Thanks.
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There are Tutorial Videos on the PG Music main website, thousands of them. Happy hunting! Trax Videos
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Thanks, MT. I went to the PG Main Site and looked under Support. There are 40+ tutorials, many of them archived. None of them have the kind of information I am looking for.
I don't think the BB site will have what I am looking for because it isn't about this program. What I need to understand is how the computer needs to be used to allow the software to be installed and to work. If anyone has any resources, would you please share?
Thanks again.
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Here is a video about how to load a VST in Biab. Trax
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Sample Tank Available as standalone and 64-bit plug-in for AAX, VST and Audio Units platforms on Mac OS X and Windows jBridge for Windows 64-bit Version of Biab
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2bsolo, That is actually an interesting question to ask but difficult to answer. A good guide to start with is +++ Home Recording for Musicians +++ . The book is in it's fifth edition. That is a good thing because it means the book is regularly updated. That also means you can search for a used third or fourth edition used book. The author, Jeff Strong, is a very good writer with a way of explaining things that make sense. A website you might enjoy is +++ The Beginner’s Guide to Digital Audio for Music Recording +++ . The website is a nice overview of digital recording. [url=The Beginner’s Guide to Digital Audio for Music Recording]+++ HERE +++[/url] is a 2013 pdf file used as a handout for an introductory audio workshop designed for school teachers. It's a pretty good reference to keep around. +++ Basic Guide To Digital Recording +++ A one page overview geared to give incoming college students an overview of digital audio recording. +++ The Technology Of Music Production +++ starts TODAY! 08-26-2018 A FREE six week, self paced course. Don't let all the talk about paying to get certified fool you. The course is free as long as you elect to Audit the course. Everyone that takes this course brags about how good the course is.
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I seem to spend a lot of time working around my ignorance of computer basics and file management. I don't know anything about bit rates or dll files, etc. File management baffles me. Find family or a friend to introduce you to the basics by sitting next to you and pushing the buttons. Or look to your local library for free courses. The stuff you are asking about is not intuitive it takes learning. Good Luck.
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Thanks to all for the suggestions. I am going to work on this.
2b
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MusicStudent's answer may be the best bet. Having someone sit next to you and having immediate feedback and an exchange of Q&A's can be a real jump start way to learn.
These days, distance from your teacher is not a problem. I have a friend that I've been tutoring along for over a year....he lives 700 miles away. We use TeamViewer, the free software that allows me to connect to and control his computer. He can see first hand how to setup and use both BIAB and RB on his own equipment. Much different than reading a book or watching videos where other people are using setups and equipment different than what you have sitting in front of you.
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Mountainside,
I have signed up for the Berklee Course. I am going to read the internet posts recommended and order some books.
The next step is to get a dedicated computer. I noticed your equipment. Where did you find a computer that runs at 4.6?
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One thing I forgot. Thanks so much to everyone!
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A CPU that fast could possibly be from overclocking, which I don’t recommend because you want stability in digital audio. It also requires above-average heat dissipation. I’ll assume this is normal speed and indeed, it is fast.
The processor speed is important but is only one part of an interrelated system involving cache, cores and other design components. In other words, a computer with a faster processor speed isn’t necessarily faster than another computer with a somewhat slower speed.
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This is such a difficult question to answer if someone never worked in an office that required a knowledge of Windows. I ran across an article recently that was titled "5 things to never put on your resume". Number one was saying you know all about PC's and Microsoft Office. Why? It's assumed that EVERYBODY knows this basic stuff, if you don't forget about even applying.
It sounds like you need the book Windows for Dummies. Not a joke, it's available everywhere or just fumble around yourself and ask questions, that works too.
As for what PC to get it depends on what your other needs are in addition to digital audio and how far you intend to go with it. All I can say is this, forget those little netbooks that sell for $295 or so. Nowhere near strong enough. You need a regular PC that runs the full Windows 10, not the mobile version. You MUST have an SSD 256 gig minimum, 500 gig much better. Don't know what that is, look it up. The more RAM the better, I would say 8 gigs minimum but I would go for 16. A system like that will most likely have the Intel i5 processor which is good. A higher end machine will have the i7 and you could conceivably need that if you were to really get into this in a big way. Ok, ok, you don't MUST have a system like this but trust me unless you're really broke on a tight budget, this is what you will eventually want so just get it now.
A 500 gig SSD, 16 gigs of ram with an i5 processor is in the $900-1,200 range. Fry's can sell you all the components and then put the whole thing together into a finished system for $85 labor. I mention this because finding exactly what you want in an off the shelf machine can be difficult. Plus you'll have a clean install of Win 10 that you own, not an OEM version.
You probably don't know what I mean by that. The big names like Dell, HP, etc will put what's known as bloatware with their installs of Windows. It's not really bad or horrible, just annoying. There are all kinds or articles about how to uninstall all that crap so putting a system together yourself and having someone install Win10 for you from Microsoft's USB that you own avoids all that.
I mentioned Fry's as an example. There are all kinds of private computer repair shops around. Any one of those can do the same thing for you. Go in with a shopping list of what you want and they can get it and put the whole thing together for you for the same price as a high end off the shelf system. They may say you get the parts first and bring them in. That's OK, just go to TigerDirect or Newegg and order whatever you need. You don't know what you want yet but you will. The motherboard/CPU combination is where you will start and there's sites and forums that go over them.
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The next step is to get a dedicated computer. I noticed your equipment. Where did you find a computer that runs at 4.6? 4.6GHz? Could be a typo?
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Hi 2bSolo!
My computer runs an i7 7700K processor (the "K" designation is the important part here). These processors normally run at 4.2GHz and with Intel's turbo frequency push 4.5Ghz. I turn off turbo boost, power savings and slightly overclock the processor to maintain a constant 4.6Ghz and stable temperature using a heat pipe cooler.
I've tried to push it even a bit further. At 4.7 it runs most programs OK but under heavy loads its gets flaky (like when doing multi drive virus scans or heavy defrags). At 4.8 it starts effecting programs and at 4.9 its mostly unusable. From the data output that I'm seeing, its more of a temperature issue rather than a voltage issue. My heat pipe just doesn't have the capacity to handle the increased demands.
Others have pushed the "K" series up to 5GHz and they claim that it's stable. They say they're doing stress testing but I'm not sure how long they run these tests. I run mine for 24 hours straight. I do know that they need water cooling to hold the temps down.
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Hello Jeff, You are correct, overclocking is based on temperature and if your CPU allows for overclocking. Going from 4.5 to 4.9GHZ may seem incremental, but that is a huge boost to performance. At this point, your bottleneck is most certainly cooling. If you ever check out a overclocking competition (I'll post a link below) they use liquid nitrogen to keep these units from exploding. Now, in a more practical sense, you can turn to water cooling or a large copper or silver/nickle heatsink. Back in 2009 I had a AMD Opteron that I clocked from 2.6 to 3.2 GHZ Stable, this was mostly due to Opterons being server chips designed for high voltage, but I was also using a pure copper heatsink that weighed about 3lbs. Please keep in mind that guys running a 7700K at 5GHZ are most likely only doing this for benchmark results. It greatly reduces the life of your CPU, not to mention you run the risk of frying something. So Overclock at your discretion. Water cooling has come a long way, here are some of the 2018 favorites: https://www.pcgamer.com/best-cpu-coolers/Check out the 2017 OC competition here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrsN3r_gVJU
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Mikke, it’s good to know at least one person at PG Music understands modded builds.
I haven’t been in any recording studio that would even consider overclocking. That’s for gaming and experimenting, not making money in the studio based on reliable equipment.
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