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#495124 - 10/11/18 12:01 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Help - Please - Regaining My Vocal Range
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Hi Folks,
I am hoping that you can provide some tips, suggestions and perhaps links to resources with a problem I have been having.

I stopped singing for about 18 months, and started again early this year.

Although, as a 55 year-old guy I expect some degradation of my voice as I age, I was shocked that I had lost some of my vocal range, and that my voice is a bit shakey (not that I have a great voice or range anyway).

I cannot even sing some of my own songs properly.

I have been trying to sing each day (bet my neighbours love the combination of that and me playing electric guitar along to various CDs) in an effort to get back to where I was.

Do you have any advice to help with this?

I was thinking of taking a Skype lesson (if possible) with Nashville based artist/vocal teacher Susan Anders, to see what she would suggest.

I am grateful for any suggestions you might have.

Thanks.

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#495465 - 10/12/18 12:52 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Help - Please - Regaining My Vocal Range [Re: drutgat]
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These videos from VoiceLesson.com on youtube will help you and show you what to do. They really work. smile

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-pOsbaC39z-7_nbBDbBw0OQOFIk3_T2j
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#495499 - 10/12/18 02:53 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Help - Please - Regaining My Vocal Range [Re: drutgat]
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I have no specific recommendations, but I heartily support getting professional help with this.

There are plenty of vocal exercises that you can to to build up your strength and range, but getting a pro to listen and help put together a program is money well spent.
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#495562 - 10/12/18 08:09 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Help - Please - Regaining My Vocal Range [Re: dcuny]
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Originally Posted By: dcuny
I have no specific recommendations, but I heartily support getting professional help with this.

There are plenty of vocal exercises that you can to to build up your strength and range, but getting a pro to listen and help put together a program is money well spent.


Hi David,
Many thanks for this.

I will definitely get some professional help with this.

Thanks, again.

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#495563 - 10/12/18 08:10 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Help - Please - Regaining My Vocal Range [Re: Sundance]
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Originally Posted By: Sundance
These videos from VoiceLesson.com on youtube will help you and show you what to do. They really work. smile

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-pOsbaC39z-7_nbBDbBw0OQOFIk3_T2j



Sundance,
Many thanks for the link.

I will check it out right now.

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#495573 - 10/12/18 10:05 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Help - Please - Regaining My Vocal Range [Re: drutgat]
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Don't forget physical exercise. Sometimes injuries or health issues can prevent exercise. Then our voices get weaker. A good exercise routine is critical and often over looked.
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#495579 - 10/12/18 10:23 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Help - Please - Regaining My Vocal Range [Re: Tobias]
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Hi Tobias,
Many thanks for your reply.

You raise an excellent point, particularly in my case, as I spent an inordinate amount of time in sedentary activities such as being on the computer, and playing guitar.

It is a shame that my interests and passions are all ones which do not involve exercising (although I was thinking about it today).

I have the means, but not yet the will. However, I know from past experience that I can get back into excercising.

Thanks again.

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#495736 - 10/13/18 02:40 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Help - Please - Regaining My Vocal Range [Re: drutgat]
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Don't know if you smoke, drink alcohol or caffeine, just an inquiry. As you get older the vocal cords get dryer and any of these will make your vocals sound worse. Aerobic exercise will help with the lung capacity, maybe get in some good trail hiking a couple times a week, some fresh clean air and trails that get you huffing and puffing. Get a good healthy diet and do some warm-ups and vocal exercises from 5 - 15 minutes a day. There are lots of free vocal warm-ups and exercises on YouTube, pick ones you like. Oh, make sure you drink enough water to keep the chords lubricated.


Edited by Belladonna (10/13/18 02:43 PM)

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#495747 - 10/13/18 03:21 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Help - Please - Regaining My Vocal Range [Re: Belladonna]
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Originally Posted By: Belladonna
Don't know if you smoke, drink alcohol or caffeine, just an inquiry. As you get older the vocal cords get dryer and any of these will make your vocals sound worse. Aerobic exercise will help with the lung capacity, maybe get in some good trail hiking a couple times a week, some fresh clean air and trails that get you huffing and puffing. Get a good healthy diet and do some warm-ups and vocal exercises from 5 - 15 minutes a day. There are lots of free vocal warm-ups and exercises on YouTube, pick ones you like. Oh, make sure you drink enough water to keep the chords lubricated.


Hi Belladona,
Many thanks for your reply, and your helpful suggestions.

I am a vehement anti-smoker, and have never smoked, although I was around a lot of second-hand smoke as a kid.

I have really cut down on drinking over the past year or so - maybe a pint or two of beer in a whole month, although I used to drink a lot more.

But I do fall down on the exercise front.

I followed the link recommended by David (above), and have started to do vocal exercises, and will continue to do so.

Thanks, once again.


Edited by drutgat (10/13/18 03:22 PM)

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#495774 - 10/13/18 06:16 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Help - Please - Regaining My Vocal Range [Re: drutgat]
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Sounds like you've got the healthy eating pretty together. What about coffee and/or tea? I would really only have one cup a day, again it's hard on the vocals when you're older. A lot more water is probably the key and good aerobic exercise to get those lungs pumping.

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#495786 - 10/13/18 07:31 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Help - Please - Regaining My Vocal Range [Re: Belladonna]
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Sorry, I forgot to mention that I gave up coffee in 1986 (!), but that I have about 5 - 10 cups of orange pekoe tea/week.

And I have deliberately been drinking water (not as much as I should, because I hate running to the bathroom every five minutes) every day for the last three or four years.

I was saying in an email to a friend in an email earlier today that I am going to start exercising again.

Thanks for the advice and encouragement.

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#495790 - 10/13/18 08:59 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Help - Please - Regaining My Vocal Range [Re: drutgat]
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I can relate drutgat. The pic you see flashing on the left was taken a week before surgery two months ago. Since then I spent a lot of time in my recliner and gained 4lbs. I've been adding more walking and physical activity in my regular day but doing it very slowly and steadily. Baby steps works better than jumpiing in - according to research slowly gradually working your way into an exercise routine that works for you gives you better odds of sticking with it. You don't want to injure yourself or get burned out and quit. Glad you found the videos helpful.
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#495792 - 10/13/18 09:10 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Help - Please - Regaining My Vocal Range [Re: Sundance]
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Hi Josie,
I am really sorry to hear that you have faced such a challenge, but am glad to hear that you are obviously recovering.

And I wish you well with that process. As you say, slowly working one's way into an exercise routine gives one better odds of sticking with it.

I really have no excuse, though, except to say that all my interests (playing, watching, and listening to music) are sedentary. But I have two pieces of exercise equipment 10 and 15 feet away from me, so I just need to turn the TV on and get on the rowing machine.

I find walking really boring.

Good luck with everything, and thanks for the encouragement.

By the way, I really liked your version of 'Be My Baby' - left a comment to that effect on YT yesterday.

Take care.

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#495951 - Today at 12:47 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Help - Please - Regaining My Vocal Range [Re: drutgat]
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We have an elliptical machine in the living room with the TV in view. My wife uses it way more than I do.
Maybe your desire to sing more will motivate you to get more exercise.
If you need more motivation here I'll give you some;
PICK UP THE PACE YOU LITTLE GRUB WORM! DO YOU THINK THIS IS THE BOY SCOUTS OR SOMETHING? DROP AND GIVE ME 20! IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE IT I'LL TAKE YOU BACK TO GRANDMA'S HOUSE FOR MILK AND COOKIES. THEN YOU CAN TAKE A LITTLE NAP YOUR TEDDY RUXPIN!
There, Does that help?
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#495964 - 33 minutes 59 seconds ago [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: Help - Please - Regaining My Vocal Range [Re: Tobias]
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Originally Posted By: Tobias
We have an elliptical machine in the living room with the TV in view. My wife uses it way more than I do.
Maybe your desire to sing more will motivate you to get more exercise.
If you need more motivation here I'll give you some;
PICK UP THE PACE YOU LITTLE GRUB WORM! DO YOU THINK THIS IS THE BOY SCOUTS OR SOMETHING? DROP AND GIVE ME 20! IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE IT I'LL TAKE YOU BACK TO GRANDMA'S HOUSE FOR MILK AND COOKIES. THEN YOU CAN TAKE A LITTLE NAP YOUR TEDDY RUXPIN!
There, Does that help?


Laugh? I nearly cried. laugh

That was brilliant, Tobias - many thanks.

Great motivation (you must have done this before).

And, yes, you are right my desire to sing more and to regain my previously-mediocre-but-that's-alright-with-me voice is motivating me more to get back to exercizing (plus, I assume I will be more attractive to the female species wink ).

Thanks again.

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