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I don`t know why some people switch their brain to an off-status when they use a navi. Here`s two short stories that happened some days ago here in Austria: 1) A German tourist drove into an Austrian one way tunnel (only one track, one direction to go) The navi had told her before that she missed a turn. So she decided to make a U-Turn in the one-way tunnel. She drove as a ghost driver until she got stopped by police. 2) An austrian women (why is it always women  ) wanted to drive the exact route the navi told her. She came to a road that was closed due to heavy snowdrift. She pulled away the extra heavy barrier (however she did that???), read the warning road sign, and yet decided to pass (because the navi told her so  ) She drove into a roaddigging and got injured. Some years ago I heard about a programming error in european navis, that led people to a notch(?) at the end of a Scottish serpentine road. One person fell down there. Some people just don`t think when they use their navi.... Sandra
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An older senior couple got lost for three days in the winter wilderness following their navi. My son and his new bride ended up in a Tuscany farm field following what the navi told them was a "shortcut" and a well-travelled highway. . . and they were still married afterwards. Lol
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Navi? Wow. New word on John. We call that yer Gee ps.
Gee look I'm here, ps. where am I?
Um, maybe I shouldn't admit this but North Of Otterwa, I still have a Silva compass. When it gets cloudy I've been know to stop and shoot north. Just on the bush roads, we have signs on most roads. Even in other languages!
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what about the lady who, after giving her poodle a bath, put it in her microwave oven to quick dry it.
while in the army in Germany it was common to see guys warming themselves by standing in front of a microwave transmitter dish in spite of the many warning signs and barbed wire.
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New word on me too John. I thought the navvies worked upon the railway. I guess wherever you are, that is your GPSpot - but Drs are saying it's only "urban legend" - or . . . urbane legend. There you go, John . . . shootin' off yer north again. What a blast! - Ian
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Well, another candidate for a Darwin award. Don't worry Sandra, they're not all women. There's the guy who put his motor home on cruise control and walked to the back to get some coffee...
It's all too easy to simply shut your brain off and rely on technology still, some people are so stupid that if it wasn't this it would be something else.
Deck officers on ships have to pass the test on shooting the sun with a sextant for navigation in spite of all the high tech in the world on modern ships.
You always have to plan ahead, Evan Tanner a UFC middleweight champion, rode his motorcycle alone out into the desert last summer along the California/Mexico border at about 115 degrees and ran out of gas 20 miles from nowhere. One small bottle of water and no survival gear and of course not paying attention to his fuel supply. Alone. Here's one of the toughest guys in the world who stupidly died in the desert.
Like they say, beauty is fleeting but stupid is forever.
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I once worked for a firm that did navigational aid softwares and hardware to go along with them.
One time, two of us got called to go out on a ship as Tech Reps to solve a reported problem.
There came a point in our testing where I did not trust portions of the GPS data.
As it turned out, there is a simple math problem in handling GPS data where, if done wrong, you get a negative integer in there that places your location way out in space somewhere, on the other side of the sattelite. I suspected this was the problem, so I wanted to find out where the ship really was and pulled out the Sextant and started to work.
The young Ensign and some of the sailors were in the background.
From the conversations overheard, they were telling each other that the black guy was "divining" our position from the stars...
When I got done, I walked past them back onto the bridge to deliver my coordinates to the software guru and said, in a low and imposing voice, "Me find where ship NOT!" <G>
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Mac, great story John: So, "navi" is not the right word for a navigation system? Do you say only GPS? It`s funny how we use english terms in German language, that the english speaking world doesn`t even use. I used to think that you call your cell phones "handy", just as we do here in Austria and Germany, but I guess you say "cell", don`t you. I think theres more examples like that. Sandra
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Yes, on this side of the pond the device is generally known as a "GPS"
-- pronounced, Jee-Pee-Ess.
For, "Global Positioning Sattelite" of course.
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I love the commercial where the GPS device says to the driver, "Turn right...", squeal, crash, "...in 50 feet". 
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I did a cross Canada trip this summer in a motor home with my partner and her mother. We toured Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Cape Breton, Maine, Vermont, and then across the northern states back home. Where as the GPS was a very useful tool in route finding, I probably maxed its use by using hard maps and "mapquest" the evening previous to the next days journey. I found the GPS strengths to be the following: locate the nearest gas station, hospital, police station at the push of a button. Thankfully all I needed was gas station locations because we were towing a car, and accessibility was a problem at some stations. The trip scheduler was also a nice convenience as it gave a running stat on ETA, distance travelled, and distance to go. Again a great help when trying to plan stops with gas refuelling. Another nice feature was that with a great deal of accuracy it would indicate which side of the road your ramp exit would be on. My unit could tell me if I missed an intersection. All that being said, I still would never totally reply on just the GPS technology. If you let it pick the route it could send you on a road not suitable for your vehicle. It may not recognize one way streets. And so on. If you use one be sure you have hard copy maps, and importantly review where you are going along with pertinent land marks. Last comment. What a beautiful country we all live in, and I mean both USA and Canada. Each place we stopped had its own special beauty, and the people were all sharing and warmly communicative in their experiences.
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In some parts of rural Wales the post-codes cover a wide area. A friend lives outside Aberystwyth, Dyfed and armed with his postcode and my GPS I went to visit him. I arrived at "my destination" according to the "lady in the Nav" and went down a dirt track and ended up in a farmyard looking like a set from the film Deliverance, and was greated by the owner, who looked like the banjo playing star. I explained why I was there and before I left he showed me round the farm yard. It was full of partially restored vintage cars, 2* 1935 vintage Rolls, wooden framed Morgan 3 wheeler, and more I cannot remember. All together about 15 cars, all at least 40 years old. The house, which I entered with trepidation, was a museum FULL of seemingly priceless furniture with even working gas lamps still on the wall. The mother was sat in an enormous chair looking like the lady from the painting Salem but listening to an IPod and watching morning TV, 30+inch screen, and smoking a cigar!!! I had a quick cuppa tea, left and followed the Sat Nav to the next "you have arrived" about 5 miles further on and there was Rolf, my mate, awaiting for me. I related my story and he said he had done similar and arrived at another farm, which was not so interesting. Now every time I go to see Rolf I visit the farm first for an update and a cuppa.
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Mine is a Garmim 750. There are lots of errors in it. Or, there were. It pays to update the map yearly because they fix screwups with each update. I could write a book on the goofy places I've ended up using my GPS. But, for the most part, it has served me very well. One thing I haven't found in error is locating hotel/motels, or any business, for that matters. It's always been spot-on with businesses, churches, etc. It's locating homes that seems to throw it off so much. I made it a point to re-rouot mine several times and save the info to favorites. Worked great after that. So far, the new update hasn't shown any errors. I'll be testing it out this May when the wifie and I take a cross country tour. We're driving from Louisiana to Wichata Kansas on across to Seattle with stops in Arizona and Utah. Should prove to be a lot of fun.
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I used Microsoft Streets and Trips on my laptop when I came out to the West Coast, and I found that it would determine my position to the lane on the highway. However, I was also smart enough to map out things before I left, and if there was an error, I stayed on the road, not followed the GPS. Having said that, the Federal Aviation Administration is moving towards sole use of GPS as navigation. It won't happen for a while, and there are still too many people using 'traditional VHF' navaids, but the small airplane that doesn't have *some* sort of GPS in it is extremely uncommon, even if it's a hand held portable. Garmin leads the traditional manufacturer, Bendix/King in this regard. Almost all new airplanes today have a 'glass cockpit' and are often provided for by Garmin in their G1000 system. This is an integrated system that provides flight instruments, navigation and communications as well as situational awareness in one package. https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=153&pID=6420 This can be found in everything from four seater propeller driven airplanes up to light jets. The newer model coming out will be for bigger jets. These devices include 'SVT' or Synthetic Vision Technology which actually draws the landscape ahead of you so that you don't accidently fly into a mountain, something called CFIT or Controlled Flight Into Terrain. It happens all too often. The technology has gotten so good that you now can use this to navigate in instrument conditions (something you've been able to do for a while) and now even fly an approach to land in instrument conditions, all derived from GPS signals. Sandra, your use of the term 'navi' did not confuse me, as these systems are often called 'Navigators' and they function as such. In fact, they are often called a poor man's Flight Management System, and are becoming so versatile that they can do 90% or more of what a full FMS can do in something like a jetliner. Putting in a flight plan, on some systems, will fly you from the departure airport to almost the runway of the destination airport, hands off. Of course, Air Traffic Control may have changes for you, but even those can be selected, controlled, inserted and deleted from the navigators in many cases, still allowing the autopilot and the navigator to fly the airplane. This is a helluva lot different than when I learned how to fly!  Gary
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Hey Russ when you get to Seattle make sure you have a passport and some time and take the ferry to Vancouver Island. I think there's one that stops about a mile or two from PG music's office. I'd go back and forth on the ferries thousands of times if I could, if the weather is clear enough the views are the best there are. But if you leave your country you gotta have a passport or you are forced to stay here, and that's gonna be a cultural shock. I think you'd fit in once you get some good wool long underwear with the button butt flap, a sealskin coat, and good mitts.
Coming into Canada us usually a breeze. Show us a library card or something, or nothing. Just smile or grin. Of course if you wear a bandanna, drive a black escalade, and have gold chains around yer neck I think the interview will last a while. BTW some of the ferries have a cheap price for just the ride, don't take the car. Our car rental rates on weekends are a bit of a deal. I got a Ford Focus, new from Enterprise, 15.99 cdn per day, unlimted milage, Friday to Monday. Can't drive my own van for that!
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John. That's great. If I can convince the wifie I'll definitely come for a visit. I'll even bring my GPS. Gotta visit with Gary while there too. Seattle's my old stomping grounds. It's where I was born and raised. I played music all over the place there back in the 70's. One of my favorite gigs was the Elks lodge on the west side of the Olympics. Great bunch of folks. I played at the Naval base at Silverdale. Crossed over to Bremerton tons of times playing gigs a different joints and clubs. Played up in the northern areas too. The fun gigs were the ones around the Winatchee area. They had a great Red Lion hotel there. The people there know how to have a great time. Here's an oddity. I was born and raised in Seattle. Never, once, stepped foot in Canada. Just never had the opportunity. My wifie, however, went there several times with her boss on business trips. They went to Vancouver. The closest I ever stepped foot into Canada was when I played a gig near Spokane. Me and my mates took off one snowy night and went up some, small, road for about 40 miles. We crossed over the the border there and into an areal where there was a really cool night club. More of a joint, I guess. They had a great rock band playing there. We sat around and drank a few then headed back for our lodge. We were off that night so we took advantage of it. One of the best nights I can remember. I wished I could remember the name of that town where we played at. It was 2 towns, actually. The only thing I can remember about it was the place we played cooked. They also had a yearly event called, "The suicide run". Similar to the running of the bulls, only it was with horses. They do it every February.
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