|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250 |
Guitars, Guns, and Equality
Now obviously we have one thang in common.
Yes I did say “thang”. Microsoft Word tried to tell me I shouldn’t say “thang”, but I did it anyway. Take that Bill Gates! (Obviously the word is “thing”, so lighten up from here on out!) And that “thang” is music. (I just clicked that “ignore” button so maybe it will leave me alone about the word “thang”!) Click. It did.
Now that the rich man has been put down (aka, Bill Gates), can we speak amongst us “common folks”? (I’m really surprised that Microsoft Word didn’t tell me that “amongst” was a wrong word! And damned if it didn’t ignore it agin! And yes I said “agin”, aka “again”. So lighten up).
So I’ll start out:
1. Guitars (or other fav’rite instrument)
Martin, custom herringbone D-28 cutaway
2. Guns, (just your fav’rite)
Smith & Wesson 38 Special revolver
3. Politic’s
Conservative, libertarian
4. Equality
Ain’t nobody any better than me, and I ain’t no better than anyone else.
Y’all game?
Bob
Last edited by bobcflatpicker; 03/15/10 11:15 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,021
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,021 |
All of the forums except for the Off Topic forum are for discussions of PG Music products only. The Off Topic forum is used for MUSIC-RELATED discussions that aren't about PG Music products. Please keep all your posts as constructive as possible.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250 |
P.S. It's okay to to identify yourselves as liberal/socialists/ Marxists/communists if you want to.
I’ll try to keep people from “ragging” on you. That’s not what this is about.
Everyone, please keep it civil!
AND PLEASE KEEP THE RELIGIOUS STUFF OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250 |
First word is guitar!!!!!!
Number one is my fav'rite guitar.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,867
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,867 |
The Off Topic forum can be used for MUSIC-RELATED discussions that aren't about PG Music products. Please keep all your posts as constructive as possible.
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250 |
Matt,
I agree. No flaming! Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Music first, everything else after.
Be nice. In light of all of the post's here recently, I thought this would be a good way to consolidate it.
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,867
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,867 |
Silvertones and I were simply quoting the forum rules, #9.
But there is progress. If it is now recognized that religion has the potential to make enemies out of forum friends, as someone said in another of 'those' threads, perhaps someday politics and guns will be recognized for having the same potential.
Best of luck with it.
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,021
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,021 |
Quote:
All of the forums except for the Off Topic forum are for discussions of PG Music products only. The Off Topic forum is used for MUSIC-RELATED discussions that aren't about PG Music products. Please keep all your posts as constructive as possible.
What part of this is not clear. When the religious post that was started by PGFantastic was flying around if you recall Andrew/moderator also posted the rules and told everyone to back off in so many words..
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250 |
John,
This is simply a consolidation of the threads that were posted recently. I don't recall any problem with the previous threads. There was a lot of discussion about the various topics. Number one is music. Anything else is secondary.
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,816
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,816 |
Want to start a war? Just start a conversation and/or forum link about religion, politics and in the USA include gun control and illegal aliens.
Guaranteed to work each and every time.
There is no need for that kind of stuff here IMHO.
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250 |
Then let's "kill it".
PG, please feel free to take the thread down.
It just puzzles me as to why these topics are routinely discussed in the forums, as long as they're not mentioned in the subject line.
Once again, PG, please take this this down, or not.
If PG doesn't take it down, will those of you who don't want to participate please leave it alone?
Is that too much to ask? And please don't quote forum rule numbers. They are "violated" by so many members on a regular basis that it's pathetic.
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 21,635
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 21,635 |
I can see how the title could be taken for an invitation to trouble.
Two of the topics in the title have been lengthy threads already. The Politics idea, I doubt we would get much from.
However, I can still go with the guitar idea!
I really enjoy playing my mexican strat from the 90's. Typical black, maple neck.. Other guitars I pickup (including other strats, much to my amazement) don't feel 'right' to me. The weight and the feel just seem to fit for me. I picked it from a rather large selection of strats in Chicago back then. I should improve the guts one of these days.. but I do like the feel.
Now to qualify that - I am NOT a good guitar player. It is the last of any instruments I own that I would claim to be able to play. If not for my understanding of theory and ability to visualize the scales on it I would be a lost cause. I can not pick up a guitar and show you everywhere you could play a single 'A' note without first thinking about it. (but I would find them!)
Even at that level of playing I can still feel my guitar when I pick it up, compared to others. And I even have other strats in the house!
Weird huh?
BTW, Bob, I think you can change the thread title yourself if you so choose.
Make your sound your own!
.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250 |
rharv,
Thanks,
I just changed the title.
BTW, Strats are my first choice for electric guitars!
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,867
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,867 |
My instruments are fairly well documented in other posts. My experience with a guitar dates back 50 years, when I learned how to play 'Red River Valley'. I remember what an F chord is. Shortly after I got that down, I remember the guitar exploded as the bridge was pulled off when tuning it up. That's about it. Sorry.
Ask me about trumpets, saxes or flutes, and I'm there.
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250 |
For those who are interested in "rule #'s", may I please introduce a "proposed" new rule.
Rule# 101: If you aren't interested in a thread, please ignore it and allow it to die a slow death. If others are interested and wish to comment, please don't quote rule #'s 001 thru 100 to try to stop others from weighing in".
We all know that forum rules are violated on an hourly basis. Do we really want PG to have to have to police the forums, or do we want them to work on new software?
My vote would be for new software. I would like to think that the rest of us could discuss topics without the intervention of PG!
Remember proposed Rule# 101!
If we reject "proposed Rule# 101", does that mean we can talk about anything we want, as long as we don't put it a thread title?
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,439
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,439 |
Hmm, musical instruments. Brass! Trombones: - Bach Stradivarius 42A - fantastic horn, so much power, Hagmann valve.
- Blessing 78 (copy of the Conn 78) - a surprisingly nice horn with an amazing slide, almost better than the Bach, conventional rotor which is stuffy as this kind usually are.
- Besson Academy 403 - straight tenor. OK slide but a great sound - I should play this one more.
- Jupiter Soprano - really a pretentious toy, but fun. Worst intonation I'v ever seen, you CANNOT get the same note in the same position twice
I'm also toying with the idea of a custom Rath R10, funds and "audition" permitting. I have to travel over 1000 km to get to the nearest (only) Australian dealer to try some so I can identify the different materials for the different components. E.G do I want the R10 (.500 bore & 7.5" bell) or the R1 (.500/.510 bore & 7.5" bell) or the R2 (.510 bore & 7.5" or maybe 8" bell)? I definitely want an F attachment but don't need a bigger horn (the Bach is a .547 bore), hence the custom requirement. Red, yellow or gold brass bell, lightweight slide etc.. Other: - Boosey and Hawkes Regent trumpet. I get real intonation problems with this horn. Dunno if it's the horn or me as I'm really a 'bone player
- Buescher Aristrocrat Trumpet. Sadly it's young enough to be the student version instead of the older pro model of the same name. Still, it's not a bad horn, just not great. I get good intonation with this one.
- Jacob Smith (read cheap Chinese) Flugel Horn. Pretty good sound but the worst valves.
- Besson "New Standard" compensating 4 valve British style Euphonium. What a wonderful horn - it's seen some hard use but works wonderfully well, great tone and intonation even though it's a converted high pitch instrument (originally a 445 'A' instead of 440)
I have played piano accordion but was never any good. Want to learn piano one day, one day... Guns: Used to have a Sportco M44 7.62 (NATO round) single shot target rifle with "Central" peep sight. Sold it over 30 years ago, but it was a wonderful rifle. No good for hunting of course. Plus I used to have a "Voere" (sp?) .22 - but it went by the wayside some 30 odd years ago too. None at the moment, but I keep promising myself to get a gun licence. One day... Politics: Generally conservative (Liberal Party here in Oz) but honest enough to realize that both sides can have a reasonable point of view. I really hate our current spendthrift, all talk no action pack of thieves though... They only seem to know how to waste resources and put their hand in my pocket to make up the shortfall. Equality: What a slippery term. I hate it. I prefer Equivalency (equal in value). Why? Because "equal" means the same, and thank you very much, but I am not the same as everyone else, thank God. Who'd want more than one Lawrie? If people are smart and constructive and contribute to our society then why shouldn't they be rewarded commensurately? On the other hand, those who are a drain on society, who refuse to contribute, well, why should we even feed 'em? Of course there is a vast variety between those limits. Those who are willing to help themselves (not to the stuff I've earned thank you very much - they can rot in gaol), but willing to help themselves improve and thus to contribute, then at least we shouldn't hinder them (are you listening you greedy politicians?), and should help where it is needed. Especially those who are disabled (either physically or mentally, or even both) in some way but want to participate constructively. Make help available to those genuinely in need. From my point of view it's more about attitude. "Givers" should also be able to receive, the worker is worthy of his/her wage. But "takers" should be given nothing, they are nothing but thieves and should be treated that way; these ones are not really hard to identify.
--=-- My credo: If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing - just ask my missus, she'll tell ya  --=--You're only paranoid if you're wrong!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250 |
Lawrie, Great post. Very informative. Quote:
Politics:
Generally conservative (Liberal Party here in Oz)
Does anyone know, off hand, how we got our terms different? As in what's conservative to us is liberal across the pond, and left is right, etc.
Is the US the only one that equates conservative = right and liberal = left, or are there mixtures of conservative = left and vice versa?
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,439
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,439 |
Nah, it's not that "left is right" but rather that the Labor party in both countries is the predominately left wing party and the Libs/Nationals here and, I think, the Tories in GB are the predominately right wing party. It's a relativity thing.
Here the "Green" party is often referred to, by those who have been keen observers, as the "Watermelon" party. Green on the outside and red on the inside. Their real policies have little or nothing to do with true ecological ideals, but rather are more interested in destroying the fabric of what is basically a country with a strong Judeo-Christian ethic. If one looks into their history it is (un?)surprising how many ex communist party members are, or have been, involved in its formation...
Please don't get me really started on Australian politics, if I had my way... Well, that's the reason I won't run for office, I might get elected! And then 5 minutes after I got into my first parliamentary sitting I'd be arrested for mass murder... I really hate the childish behaviour and the self serving attitude of all of 'em. IMHO no person who actually wants office should ever be allowed to have it... They always forget that they are there to serve, not be served.
--=-- My credo: If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing - just ask my missus, she'll tell ya --=--You're only paranoid if you're wrong!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,296
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,296 |
Guns, Politics, Religion. I won't touch these with a ten footer - way too controversial.
OK, this post deals with music.
Couple of weeks ago, I went into the shop/store of my piano rebuilder/dealer friend. Beautiful black shiny six footer (grand) sitting there. Brodmann - hmmm, don't know that name.
Piece of junk made in China? I'll let you decide:
In the past five or ten years, Bosendorfer was working on another piano. Something a bit less costly than the usual Bosendorfers. Apparently the bank owned Bosendorfer and were looking for a seller (Yamaha now owns Bosendorfer). The new design had only made it to the prototype stage - nothing produced for sale.
Five Bosendorfer employees approached the bank to buy the rights to the new one, and bought it. They call it a Brodmann. At first I thought it was a "made-up" German name. But no - when Ignaz Bosendorfer was starting out he worked in Vienna with the Josef Brodmann piano company. Bosendorfer was a skilled apprentice to Brodmann. In 1828, Brodmann set up his own piano making business. Not long after, Brodmann retired, and Bosendorfer bought Brodmann's factory and all the rights to the name.
Ignaz Bosendorfer never used the Brodmann name, so it languished for well over 100 years. The new piano that the present company had been working on was to be called Brodmann.
I saw the piano, and my friend invited me to try it. It needed voicing, regulation, and tuning, but even with these obvious shortcomings, it was impressive.
Next question - how much? A Yamaha C3 (same size and class) retails for about $38,000 CAD. The Brodmann for $18,000 CAD.
All the essential parts, soundboard, action, strings, etc. made in Germany (action is British). Case made in - yup - China. All assembled in China.
I think we're going to hear more about Brodmann. Who said that a great piano couldn't be made in China?
BTW, the workmanship is flawless.
Glenn
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250 |
Thanks Lawrie,
Whenever I used the dreaded word "politics" in my post, this was the kind of thing I was looking for. It helps me understand your country better.
This wasn't meant to be a divisive post. I just wanted to throw music into the mix of topics we were already discussing. I was surprised that when I added "guitars", (aka, your instrument of choice), to what was already being discussed, (guns, politics and equality), that the old "rule book" would come out! LOL. If someone shows me a "rule", I'll probably break it just because it's a rule! Especially if it's being broken all around me, (see the other forums).
Thanks for your insight. I just wanted to add music to the topics already being discussed.
I believe it would help us understand each other better.
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 German for Windows is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!
Wir waren fleißig und haben über 50 neue Funktionen und eine erstaunliche Sammlung neuer Inhalte hinzugefügt, darunter 222 RealTracks, neue RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, abspielbare RealTracks Set 3, abspielbare RealDrums Set 2, zwei neue Sets von "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 und mehr!
Paket | Was ist Neu
Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums66
Topics81,628
Posts735,228
Members38,522
| |
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean