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sounds like a good suggestion
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I agree at live gigs where they serve fajita, nobody cares. Nobody ever goes there saying "wow i hope theres a band playing, it will make dinner so much better"
if they do look for music, it's at a club/restaurant designed for that venue.
Nobody ever cares about live music in the run of the mill public place. Ive done gigs alone with sequenced tracks up the gazoo, nobody ever asked for a specific song. Most people walk by as if you were a ornament in the place.
you get your occasional "what are you doing here, would you sing at my wedding" course, 99% of the time they never contact you anyway.
I have one video of me playing in a bar and you can see three guys shooting pool the whole time, im not even sure they realized music was being played for three hours.
So If u can get a gig like that, by all means use your biab and midi stuff, but this conversation was mostly geared towards home recording.
How is biab going to hold up if I record original songs with it, thats the focus of the conversation.
Last edited by Playin In The Band; 07/30/10 09:39 AM.
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Record with it? BIAB is not a DAW. It's an auto arrangement program - a tool for helping you put tracks together easily. It works great, if you know what you're doing and know a few program tricks. You will still need a DAW, such as Sonar, Pro Tools, Cubase, or even PowerTracks to track and mix your final product.
Second, home recording is not the same as recording a band in a pro studio. From what I can tell, you just don't like the idea of solo home recording in general. Well fine, go rent a studio and hire a band. I'm not going to prove to you that BIAB will make you sound just like Eric Clapton live, because that's probably not going to happen (unless you're Eric Clapton or have incredible talent). The final product will only sound as good as you make it sound.
But, IMO, you're not going to find a better, more affordable solution for creating studio tracks quickly and easily than BIAB.
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I doubt you're Eric Clapton either lollllllll
I know Biab is not a daw, but an accompaniment software. but can you use those tracks for an album of your original songs and be radio ready(even it's internet radio or be broadcast ready...or the biggest of all be rock n roll????)
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The question isn't what I think, but what do you think?
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http://www.pgmusic.com/ubbthreads/showfl...true#Post241154My fav is "Lucky Break". You may or may not like it. My music credo is "the spice girls sold millions of records and I didn't buy one." Meaning we all like what we like and hear what we hear. You could replace the spice girls with any group and the statement would apply to someone. But the fact remains millions of records were still sold whether I or you bought one or not. grin. BTW here's another one you might be interested in. The band is called "Elegance". http://www.pgmusic.com/ubbthreads/showfl...ge=0#Post227372
Last edited by Sundance; 07/30/10 07:54 PM.
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Now, don't be dissin' the Spice Girls. At least some things on this board have to remain beyond reproach.
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he's a really good singer, the song is just ok, the arrangement sounds more like a demo than a record, but his voice carries the whole thing.
He also has specific parts in there.
I didnt like the drum sound choice.
Ton of compression.
I think it passes for this kind of tune. nice find.
And I agree people like what they like. But great production can and often does sell a pop record.
"hit me baby one more time" by brittany spears is a horrible song, but a great record.
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Would rharv please explain how to use the click track to modify individual tracks tempos. I don't think I saw that anywhere in the manual. Thank you very much
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Cost, accesibility, lack of skills on other instruments, besides guitar.
Having to deal with other musicians who want to make the project there's, and take credit for it, when you did all the writing and singing.
Not having a ton of experience producing or recording.
Being a solo artist, and having to explain the other musicians who played on it, when they are just hired musicians.
other than that...
For a while there I though real band might be a viable option, I just dont know how it would sound for rock and pop music.
I agree with everything you say except ... What does a different genre have to do with it? When you say, "For a while there I though real band might be a viable option, I just dont know how it would sound for rock and pop music." I'm not certain I understand where you're coming from. As far as I know, the product works just the same from one genre to the next -- you either like what it does or not. I could be wrong but I don't think there's any hard-coding in the software that treats one genre differently than another.
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... or at very very least I end up with an excellent sketch.
Some of us use the product just for that reason ... a tool to help hone our trade and also get our own creative juices flowing. In my opinion, at the present time I don't think it's a perfect program but realistically it does for me what no other software I know of can do. On the other hand my friend, if it ever comes to a point where this or any other program, "does it all" then as musicians, everyone here is in trouble and every instrument you play or would like to play (including your voice) will be obsolete!
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In 1983 it cost $10K to get 1000 LPs on the street. If you put as much effort into your album using RB as you would with a bunch of musicians you'll get just as good a product
I agree. I'm gonna' get a lot philosophical here. Thus, I disagree.
I think there should be a distinction between "music" and "sound". While I believe that BIAB (as with other computer software products), will improve your "sound", I don't think it will necessarily make better "music" than acoustic, human-played music. I'm not sure "digital" was even an available option to the musical masses in 1983 -- whether you were buying it to listen to or if you were trying to produce something of your own. It's just my personal opinion, but I think the best "music" came from the 30's through the 70's and if you're speaking of rock and roll, my personal choice would be the 60's and 70's. The best "sound" however, is available now -- It's available to anyone who has the money to invest in the correct combination of hardware and software -- If "sound" is all you're after.
To me, "... just as good a product ..." where RB or BIAB is concerned might be true IF we're speaking only of "sound" quality. BIAB is a great product. Alone it won't make you a musician. It can help you decide for yourself what might "sound" better, but I don't believe it will ever replace human ingenuity and creativity that produces what is most pleasing to the ear -- "music", not just "sound".
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Would rharv please explain how to use the click track to modify individual tracks tempos. I don't think I saw that anywhere in the manual. Thank you very much
The way you phrased your question is not quite what I said.
Each track will share the tempo map, but you can set the tempo map to however you want it.
You can use the ACW to hard write a tempo map.
Open ACW, it will try to interpret the tempo map for you going by the beat of the song it senses. Then you can 'play' the song inside the ACW and tap F8 key as it plays to set the '1' of every measure. This causes the tempo map to be rewritten, and every measure can vary by thousandths of a second.
Then send the new tempo map to the program when finished...
Audio tracks will still play the same, but MIDI (and realtracks) will now generate to the new tempo map. So you can play a 'free-style' piano or guitar track and still have realtracks play along...
ACW = Audio Chord Wizard. It is much more than a chord wizard!
Make your sound your own!
.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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