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#81239 - 08/01/10 08:46 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Casio WK-3000 or similar - volume mod [Re: Shackman]
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For use with BIAB it has been a godsend to be able to manually turn off various MIDI channels at the keyboard, using the little rubber MIDI cannel buttons, in order to isolate particular instrumental channels and learn a part exactly. (I'm ashamed to say I still can't work out how to do that from within BIAB!)




right click each instrument name you want to silence and choose mute
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#81240 - 08/03/10 08:22 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Casio WK-3000 or similar - volume mod [Re: pghboemike]
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Does anyone know which models included at minimum a pitch bend wheel? For live performance, I find that is a must for me for synth leads.

I also like mod wheels but can do without if there's a way to switch leslie effects some other way. I'm so used to 'turning the leslie on and off' with a mod wheel that it's like riding a bike. But I think I could switch to a pedal-switched type thing or even a roland d-beam switch.

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#81241 - 08/03/10 09:03 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Casio WK-3000 or similar - volume mod [Re: rockstar_not]
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My mouth is watering...if I was younger I'd add this new board to my collection of keyboards/samplers. Just one reason:
Integrated Sampling Sequencer
With the Integrated Sampling Sequencer, you can integrate audio (sampled) data and MIDI data seamlessly. WAV/AIFF loading is also supported. You can use the time slice feature to slice the sampled sounds that you load and control them in the same way that you would control MIDI data. For example, you can synchronize audio data to the same BPM as MIDI sequence data. Also, by presetting the tempo, time signature, necessary number of measures, and number of beats, you can smoothly perform trimming and easily create perfect audio loops. Also, you can use a variety of editing commands to modify your samples. The Motif XF supports features such as time stretching, in which the sample length is changed while the pitch remains the same; pitch shifting, in which the pitch is changed while the length of the sample remains the same; and loop remixing which instantly creates new musical variations of looped grooves. In addition, there is a resampling feature that you can use to record the performance of the Motif XF as a single audio sample.
I have had a Yamaho Motif 88 ES for many years, and it's one tough and heavy keyboard...
bought it as an investment in the future, added a few soundboards, and it's been great, and still used by many performing musicians.

Now we have this new Motif, and if I could, I'd recommend the new XF Motif...probably the "6" would be most useful for your activities...a whole new flash memory ...new sounds, etc., etc. Money well spent, to my mind~~

It will do everything you need, including great recording capabilities.

Check out the Yamaho site, and video....

http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/Cont...amp;CTID=206400


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#81242 - 08/03/10 09:26 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Casio WK-3000 or similar - volume mod [Re: GDaddy]
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Does anyone know which models included at minimum a pitch bend wheel? For live performance, I find that is a must for me for synth leads.




The WK-3500 and the WK-3700 have pitch bend wheels. The WK-3000 and another model I can't think of in the 3000-series only has a toggle switchI think the WK-3800 might also have it, but the MIDI interface on the 3800 is strictly USB (not 5-pin MIDI cables).

By the way, if you get a 3500 or a 3700, let me know as I have all the downloads for additional styles and stuff for both keyboards.
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#81243 - 08/03/10 10:10 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Casio WK-3000 or similar - volume mod [Re: jford]
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...Yep, you're right. The USB interface looks good on paper (use an old printer cable to hook up your keyboard to your computer in place of two MIDI cables). Unfortunately, Casio does not support all OS's. You're better off with a conventional MIDI port.

The 3800 is a USB only to replace the Midi. A friend of mine has one of those. My home machine, a WK-8000, also has that USB only design. The big problem with that design is that Casio developed drivers for the USB for Windows XP-32, Windows NT and 95. I'm not sure that Mac is even supported but I know that XP-64 and Vista-64 are not. I contacted Casio when I got the 8000 and asked for 64 bit drivers for that USB, and they said that there was no plan to develop them. I'm not sure about using the USB/Midi replacement on Windows 7, you'll have to dig around to find out. This is one of the reasons why I've remained on XP-32 for the time being. You might check again to see if Win 7 is supported for keyboards that have the USB replacement for MIDI like the 8000. Also, Casio has all of their manuals available online. It is possible to pull down all of the documentation to examine which keyboard had which features without buying one.

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#81244 - 08/03/10 10:21 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Casio WK-3000 or similar - volume mod [Re: Bill Lyons]
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PS - Just checked on Casio's website. It looks like there's still no plan to develop 64 bit drivers for any of the OS's. You can run Vista or Win 7 as long as it's 32 bit.

FYI:

http://support.casio.com/information.php?rgn=5&cid=008&pid=934

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#81245 - 08/03/10 02:59 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Casio WK-3000 or similar - volume mod [Re: rockstar_not]
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The WK-1630 does have both dedicated organ patches which switches the channel on/off buttons to drawbars. It also has a mod wheel. Here's a vide of one in action off of YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcr6TmQGLQU

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#81246 - 08/04/10 02:30 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Casio WK-3000 or similar - volume mod [Re: Bill Lyons]
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@pghboemike

Re: right click each instrument name you want to silence and choose mute

Sorry, doesn't work. When I attempt your method the "Combo" and "Melody" choices do mute the whole song without stopping song scroll thru, but I can't deselect individual instruments. The instrument title goes red rather than yellow, but no individual muting happens. I'm using BIAB 2007 on a PC with all the current updates. Ideas?

Cheers,

john

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#81247 - 08/04/10 07:41 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Casio WK-3000 or similar - volume mod [Re: Shackman]
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A part that turns Red when RightClicked *should* be muted.

Try a Return to Factory Settings.




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#81248 - 08/05/10 09:05 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Casio WK-3000 or similar - volume mod [Re: Mac]
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Cheers, will give it a try.

And report back.

J.

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#81249 - 08/05/10 09:17 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Casio WK-3000 or similar - volume mod [Re: Shackman]
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No joy. Absoloutely no change, either with a return to Most or All factory settings. Right clicking Melody will go red and mute everything, while scroll thru continues, right clicking Combo will make all go red and do the same thing but there is no change to individual instruments playback when right clicked.

Delete and reinstall BIAB?

J.

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#81250 - 08/05/10 09:29 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Casio WK-3000 or similar - volume mod [Re: Shackman]
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Hey, Shackman -

Are you talking about trying to mute you keyboard's instruments from within BIAB? I'm not sure I'm understanding the issue here.

However, the keyboard's parts do not line up with BIAB's parts and if you bring in anything from the keyboard (or from any MIDI source, for that matter), it all gets loaded into the melody track. So unless you have a BIAB style enabled for the song, muting the melody track will mute everything that got sent by the keyboard.

Or is it a different problem?
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#81251 - 08/05/10 10:51 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Casio WK-3000 or similar - volume mod [Re: Shackman]
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...Right clicking Melody will go red and mute everything, ....




Hold on there.

Sounds like you are playing back a MIDI file and not a standard BiaB songfile, is that correct?

Since the MIDI SEQ places the entire MIDI file on the Melody track, muting the Melody track would mute everything you hear.

If that is the case, what you really want to do is hit the rond green "SEQ" toolbar button - where you should see the MIDI parts by the MIDi channel and can mute tracks from the imported MIDI sequence there.


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#81252 - 08/05/10 06:19 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Casio WK-3000 or similar - volume mod [Re: Mac]
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To get back to Scott's original question I had a neighbor a few years ago who got the 3800 as a gift and could barely play it. I wound up playing it for about an hour and showing her how the functions worked. I remember thinking this thing was pretty good bang for the buck at $400 and I could gig with it no problem. As with all these consumer arrangers, the feel of the keys is pretty cheap compared to a Korg or Roland but can you still play it and get good sounds out of it? Absolutely, and I particularly paid attention to the organs since I do a lot of that and those patches sounded good. I only played it in her living room using the built in speakers, if I had hooked it up to my big stage rig I think it would have sounded comparable to my other pro keyboards.

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#81253 - 08/06/10 09:21 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Casio WK-3000 or similar - volume mod [Re: jazzmammal]
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Guys, I'm going to migrate my rude hijacking of this thread to a new thread before straining the friendships too much. Look for a BIAB orientated issue thread, but here in Off-Topic. See you there. J.

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