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In RB, the mixer, is there a compressor, or is it just the peak limit? I want to level out my vocals and can't make it work. I have used dynamics to bring up the volume but want to compress to even out the vocals. Thanks 
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Hi Critter, The PGMusic compressor is the plug-in called "Dynamics" which, from the sounds of it, you have used. This plug-in is actually dual purpose in that it is both a compressor and an expander and you can engage either one individually by check-marking the appropriate boxes. With vocals, I tend you use a freeware plug-in called Blockfish. I find that this works well for my voice (it's also very simple to use in that the number of buttons and dials is minimal). If you are interested, you can get Blockfish from... http://www.digitalfishphones.com/main.php?item=2&subItem=5Regards, Noel
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PGDynamics is the included compressor.
Lower the threshold and raise the ratio (in the compressor section) to compress more ...
There are tons of free compressors out there, Blockfish recommended above is a decent one. Combined with Spitfish (their de-esser) it handles vocals well. I like Classic Compressor also for a free choice.
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So..........if I download these freebees........how do you incorporate them to use in RB? Dumb question but I still live in analog land, I'm sure you guys realize that by now, duh........LOL. Also, what does the peak limiter do? I've played with it, but no good results, probably because I am trying to make it do something it doesn't want to do. 
Last edited by critter; 08/04/10 09:33 PM.
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Create a folder where you will keep your new plugins. Call it VST or something.
A plugin is a .dll file (along with some others sometimes), put the new .dll file(s) in that folder.
Open a seq file, go to an audio track and click the little arrow to edit the DX FX like you do to get to the PG plugins.
Scroll to the bottom of the list and you will see 'add VST'. Click that and go to your folder and select the new .dll file.
That's it. You have to do it once for each new plugin, but once found they are remembered in the list.
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You may want to experiment with the presets in PG Dynamics. I use the Main Mix Gentle Leveling with nice results. Another compressor that is often mentioned here is the KVR Classic Compressor found here. R
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That link is dead in the long run. Kjaehaus shut down their site. The plugin can still be found as part of the Classic set here - http://www.acoustica.com/plugins/vst-directx.htm
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OK, here is where the compressor from GVST really shines. Critter is looking for some instruction on dynamics processing. The GVST Compressor shows you graphically what happens to your signal both in the 'curve' that is being used in the processor, as well as a waveform display of the input and output signals. Here's a screenshot:  and here is the download link: http://www.gvst.co.uk/dl070421/GComp.zipCritter - download this thing and play around with the threshold and ratio controls until you understand what is happening. I suggest feeding a very simple signal into the compressor - a low frequency sine wave (flute patch) would do nicely, or an old school TB303 type kick drum patch or low tom patch. Then, play with the limit and softness controls. Finally, play around with the upper row of knobs for the makeup gain and so forth.
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While you are there, might as well grab gsnap as well.. http://www.gvst.co.uk/downloads.htmthanks Scott
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Bob,
I use a whole bunch of plugins from Graham / GVST. He's one of the only freeware developers that I've actually donated to via PayPal, because his tools were exactly what I needed to learn a couple of signal processing techniques - dynamics processing being one of them.
Once I saw that he had a little scope timeline display on his compressor with the input and output signals displayed, I immediately gravitated to it, being an engineer.
I've used this particular plugin a couple of times to teach some younger kids how dynamics processing works. When they see the signals change, it seems to give them an 'aha' moment.
I use other dynamics processing, but this is the one that made things really click in my head as to what was going on. Seems to work with other folks as well.
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I'm fooling around with PG Dynamics, it's a work in progress, if I can keep everything in PG all the better. Thanks
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