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Well, BIAB still fully supports MIDI; that hasn't gone away and I doubt it will. Notes Norton still creates quality MIDI styles; you can purchase additional styles from him. You're not limited to only the ones provided by PGMusic. You can even turn off the use of RealTracks and RealDrums - they're great but you don't have to use them.
I'm all for more MIDI styles, as well, but I'm also finding that once you get into the thousands, you go into MIDI overload and it starts actually getting more difficult to choose a style. I find that if I want more styles, they now tend to me more song-specific, with signature riffs. That gets into copyrighted territory. But that's also where the style wizard can come in to convert MIDI files into a BIAB style.
Also, using the hybrid style maker, you can easily mix and match the individual components from various styles to roll your own. Or use the style wizard to create unique styles from MIDI files (takes a little work, but it's not too difficult). Or just roll your own from scratch.
That being said, it would be nice if PGMusic teased us now and then with some additional MIDI style sets.
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Here we go again, MIDI vs Real Tracks. I play jazz piano and use only Real Bass and Real Drums for accompaniment. If you're a cover band then MIDI is probably better for you. For my purposes MIDI dosen't come close to the sound and feel of the Real Tracks. I used the MIDI tracks for many years and it was like a miracle when Real Tracks came out. For me, no comparison. Real Tracks, hands down.........
Hi you all
Just want to add my grain of salt... I have to say that my opinion on MIDI vs Real Tracks echoes toward what raym1 had to say. Only been working with BIAB since 2005.I also play jazz on the tenor. I am definitely not an expert on BIAB. I use it primarily for accompaniment and jazz composition. For accompaniment, I just want to enter chords, choose a style, play on top to see if it fits and burn it to a cd. For composing jazz themes, I just sit down at the piano and when I'm ready, I choose the appropriate style and try it directly with an accompaniment that sounds real, afterwards I use a notation program. (That's one feature BIAB I would never touch with a ten feet pole, but that's another ball game...) That being said, one can "MIDI tweak" all they want or use "hyper" real tracks, nothing will ever replace live musicians.
I don't have anything against MIDI and I guess we have to choose what suits us better to achieve our goals. Until now I was using only MIDI. Last week I bought all the jazz Real Track and as far as I'm concerned the sounds are out of this world. Frankly, for what I have to do BIAB, I don't miss MIDI a bit.
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I think the problem lies in that everyone wants to have a version that suits them. Not practical. If you are a midi user only, great BiaB and Rb both support midi and midi processing, there are nearly 2000 midi styles, and the ability to make hundreds more with the hybred style maker and the midi style maker. If someone wants to use Midi and not RTs great the ability is there, and if one wants RTs and no midi great the Rts are there. You do not have to strip the midi out for the RT users, and neither do you need to strip out the RTs for midi users. Just use the parts you want to.
With nearly 2000 styles, and the hundres of norton styles it is there for whatever one wants. I agree a few new style disks would be cool for midi users. But we frequently hear folks say I want a style like "xxxxxxx" and almost every time someone comes up with a style either here or at Notes site that covers it, and if there is not one can be made using the hybred method.
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Rob - That's what I keep reading in the posts, also. It seems that everyone wants a personalized version of BIAB that meets their own workflow requirements. And some feel that that version should be imposed on everyone else ("I don't need to use it, so why should you? Since we have RealTracks, why should I have to even see the MIDI styles; besides, MIDI sounds like crap and I wouldn't want to listen to it.") Me, I like having the plethora of options in BIAB. 
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Back for a few words.. Don't want to be misunderstood : BIAB should have both MIDI & RT. The more choices the better...
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I love it when a whole country drops by to leave an opinion!
My point exactly John.
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With nearly 2000 styles, and the hundres of norton styles it is there for whatever one wants.
I am truly bewildered by the 'antis' who seem to be deaf to what we MIDI users are doing and what we are asking for. The whole point of the OP and of my additional comments is that the above JUST ISN'T SO. Quit trying to tell us that it is.
Our needs in terms of MIDI styles have progressed beyond what PG presently offers. We are simply asking that PG continue to develop what has, up to now, been done easily and well by them.
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But we frequently hear folks say I want a style like "xxxxxxx" and almost every time someone comes up with a style either here or at Notes site that covers it . . .
"Almost." In most cases, probably so. Not in mine.
The reason I bought BIAB in the first place was to take the place of having to step program drum parts, which was the available technology at the time. (Anybody want a lightly-used KORG DDM-110?) I continued to use it because it does the same with other parts as well.
My requirements have morphed beyond the basics precisely because of what BIAB does so well--help to create original music. I have progressed from creating or covering standard pop music into composing original electronic music that would otherwise require a heavy investment in hardware sequencers and programming time.
You and others are telling me to create our own Styles. Fine. We have the ability to do so. Just realize that you are asking/requiring us to spend time on nuts and bolts instead of creating music, which is why we got BIAB in the first place.
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. . . and if there is not one can be made using the hybred method.
Not if the component parts aren't available. Read our collective lips: THEY AREN'T.*
Someone up in Vancouver has done a fantastic job of creating the existing MIDI styles. We simply ask that they not abandon us po' MIDIots entirely and continue to invest some effort in their excellent MIDI Styles.
R.
*I would like to see a more extensive range of Styles based on so-called "classic" electronic music: Jean Michel Jarre, Tangerine Dream and its component members, Kraftwerk, Kitaro, Mike Oldfield, Peter Gabriel's ambient work, and others too obscure to mention here. (I have requested this elsewhere in the Wish Lists.) PG have touched on these, and done well; we are asking for more.
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I love it when a whole country drops by to leave an opinion!
Well Rob, Switzerland is a small country and I did have time to make a quick survey before writing the post, a couple of emails, a few phone calls... And yeah, seems like the whole country is on my side ! 
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That's cool Switzey! I called everyone on the block here and most of them were already asleep!
Okay I hear ya Rich, but that is not what the original poster said, he said he wanted a MIDI only version, and that is as silly to me as someone asking for an all RTs version. wanting more styles or even a better way to make styles is reasonable. But with the ones you have, you have tons more than the RT users have. And having to make a midi track from Piano roll, or even from keyboard is still part of the process. If an RT user does not have an appropriate RT he has to either play the track, or get someone else to do so. For my part i do not want to get so "BiaB lazy" that i let it do ALL the work. I want to still create some of it myself. Or else just buy the CD and listen to it in the car.
One thing to think of, is that if over 3000 styles available, and the ability to make hybrids of all of them are not enough we might have to resort to learning to record the old fashioned way. Those artist you mentioned I am sure did not use BiaB to create those classics. They played the instruments. Me as I am sure it is with many others here am not that good, i play two to three instruments one fairly good two more poorly. I am trying to endeavor to play more tracks myself.
I agree though that at some point they should not abandon the midi portion of the programs.
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You and others are telling me to create our own Styles. Fine. We have the ability to do so. Just realize that you are asking/requiring us to spend time on nuts and bolts instead of creating music, which is why we got BIAB in the first place.
But the argument I keep hearing from the MIDI side of the fence is that it is PGMusic's responsibilty to keep creating the styles instead of creating music software, which is why they got in the business in the first place.
The styles are a creative component, one part of the bigger system. PGMusic has created the system, and also thousands of styles to work in the system. They have also made known the procedure for creating new styles, and even created about 3 different versions of style wizard.
Personally, I think it is in everybody's best interest if PGMusic keeps focusing on SYSTEM development, while letting 3rd party experts like Notes Norton and others focus on COMPONENT development.
But that's a point of perspective, and not everyone shares the same perspective.
The old MIDI standard is pretty much fully supported in the SYSTEM provided by PGMusic. But there is some proprietary development to MIDI... libraries that achieve phenomenal realism by extending the scope of existing MIDI attributes and samples. Once that technology is fully developed and becomes mainstream, I expect that PG will either license the technology or find a way to incorporate the best of the best into "the system"
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I will respectfully disagree with you on two issues. Quote:
But the argument I keep hearing from the MIDI side of the fence is that it is PGMusic's responsibilty to keep creating the styles instead of creating music software, which is why they got in the business in the first place.......
The old MIDI standard is pretty much fully supported in the SYSTEM provided by PGMusic. But there is some proprietary development to MIDI... libraries that achieve phenomenal realism by extending the scope of existing MIDI attributes and samples. Once that technology is fully developed and becomes mainstream, I expect that PG will either license the technology or find a way to incorporate the best of the best into "the system"
Although creating more styles would be nice I want PGMusic to improve the MIDI system. They are not “pretty much fully supported” when MIDI resolution is locked at 120 PPQ and there is only one MIDI out port. My old Atari had 960 PPQ MIDI resolution and most all MIDI people use more than just general midi.
Other improvements I would like to see that would help both sides of the fence is the ability to place more than four chords per measure and the ability to place chords at 16th note intervals. Just think of the improvement in styles if this were to occur.
The above four suggestions are not new ideas nor are they propriety developments. They have been around for years however PGMusic has not incorporated them into BiaB; my guess is that it would take a complete rewrite to do so. The risk in not improving the MIDI side is other companies my come up with a better product.
Just my USD $0.02.
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I will respectfully disagree with you on two issues.
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But the argument I keep hearing from the MIDI side of the fence is that it is PGMusic's responsibilty to keep creating the styles instead of creating music software, which is why they got in the business in the first place.......
The old MIDI standard is pretty much fully supported in the SYSTEM provided by PGMusic. But there is some proprietary development to MIDI... libraries that achieve phenomenal realism by extending the scope of existing MIDI attributes and samples. Once that technology is fully developed and becomes mainstream, I expect that PG will either license the technology or find a way to incorporate the best of the best into "the system"
Although creating more styles would be nice I want PGMusic to improve the MIDI system. They are not “pretty much fully supported” when MIDI resolution is locked at 120 PPQ and there is only one MIDI out port. My old Atari had 960 PPQ MIDI resolution and most all MIDI people use more than just general midi.
Other improvements I would like to see that would help both sides of the fence is the ability to place more than four chords per measure and the ability to place chords at 16th note intervals. Just think of the improvement in styles if this were to occur.
The above four suggestions are not new ideas nor are they propriety developments. They have been around for years however PGMusic has not incorporated them into BiaB; my guess is that it would take a complete rewrite to do so. The risk in not improving the MIDI side is other companies my come up with a better product.
Just my USD $0.02.
The ports and PPQ are both addressed in RB. Since number of ports is more of a live performance requirement, and BIAB is the auto-accompaniment program, it does surprise me that additional ports have never been added. But going back to the SYSTEM vs COMPONENT way of looking at it, 3rd party components like MIDI YOKE allow more ports. They may feel that as long as its possible, it doesn't matter whether they provide the component as long as they provided a HOOK for the component (I can't speak for PGMusic, obviously. I'm just offering my own thoughts here)
Seems to me that PPQ is more important in recording, so RB is the place for that .
But you're right about the risk of getting sidelined when somebody else comes up with a better product. I have to believe they put considerable thought into their strategy. Watching from the sidelines, they seem to be gaining customers, not losing them.
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Yes, I know the ports and PPQ are addressed in RT however until RB has ALL of BiaB incorporated in it I will continue to my sequencer of choice.
PPQ is very important for timing so IMO the styles could be a lot better with higher PPQ. Subtle timing variations can make a huge difference with backing tracks.
Personally I don’t know of any home studio that doesn’t use multiple midi ports. Even if you use only soft synths you need to use multiple midi ports, especially in a recording mode.
PGMusic’s strategy is a good business model. Everyone wants more RTs so they make more RTs. Now don’t get me wrong; I use RTs a lot. They have saved me a lot of time as I have a number of clients who sing to them, i.e. using RTs is much faster than me playing all of the midi parts for the client. However I use more midi in my personal projects.
Even though we have a difference of opinion on this subject we both agree that PGMusic does produce fantastic products. I would venture to say many of use would not still be playing and/or singing if it weren’t for BiaB, PTPA and RB.
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Mario, the only think i disagree with on your argument is that BiaB is a home studio, Rb is a home studio it was designed from the ground up (foundation in PTPA) as a pure Audio/midi DAW. BiaB is designed from the ground up to auto generate tracks for backing and practice, and even playing along, but it was never designed as a recording home studio, and has very minimal recording features. It does have tons of creation features. One of the reasons for developing RB was to bridge the gap between BiaB and PTPA, and have a solution for those who love BiaB to take projects to the next level with ease.
Still youe ideas are not without merit, better midi resolution is a good idea. Multiple ports not a bad one. I can't see PG turning BiaB into a full DAW why with RB attached, but adding a second Midi out port wouldn't hurt. But still once a song is setup properly sending to to RB make a ton of sense.
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Mario, the only think i disagree with on your argument is that BiaB is a home studio, Rb is a home studio it was designed from the ground up (foundation in PTPA) as a pure Audio/midi DAW.
Hi Rob, I should have been more specific in my answer. I was referring to a home studio as one that has a DAW, effects, mics etc. and not inferring that BiaB was a home studio. Pat had mentioned that “ports is more of a live performance requirement” and I was trying to explain that I have never seen a home studio, as I described above, with only one port.
Sorry for any confusion.
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No need to be sorry my friend, you are such a enjoyable part of this forum, and discussion. I hear you, there are tons of ways that PG could go with this software, and it will be fun to watch what comes out of it going forward.
We all have different needs and wants here, and yours are as important as mine, most likely more so. Thanks for the clarity. I tend to be slightly narrow viewed at times.
I really do enjoy reading all the different views, and have learned so much from so many here. Mario, Pat Marr, Rharv, Mac, Rachael, Silvertones, Jford, the list goes on and on. What a really great bunch of folks.
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Mario, the only think i disagree with on your argument is that BiaB is a home studio, Rb is a home studio it was designed from the ground up (foundation in PTPA) as a pure Audio/midi DAW.
Hi Rob, I should have been more specific in my answer. I was referring to a home studio as one that has a DAW, effects, mics etc. and not inferring that BiaB was a home studio. Pat had mentioned that “ports is more of a live performance requirement” and I was trying to explain that I have never seen a home studio, as I described above, with only one port.
Sorry for any confusion.
Mario, exactly... but I wasn't suggesting you don't need multiple ports for the studio... that's a moot point because RB is more of a studio app than BIAB, and it HAS multiple ports. I was affirming your observation that the lack of multiple ports in a performance based app (BIAB) is perhaps your most valid point.
Rob, Ditto on the forum comeraderie <--(spelling?)
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<...> That being said, one can "MIDI tweak" all they want or use "hyper" real tracks, nothing will ever replace live musicians. <...>
That's an odd statement since live musicians play both traditional instruments and MIDI instruments. Rick Wakeman, Keith Emerson, Patrick Moraz are a few live MIDI players.
And once things are digitized, they are all samples anyway.
The notion that MIDI instruments are inferior to "real" instruments is pure BS and quite Luddite in nature.
I have nothing against the RTs, there is definitely more than one way to make music, but when people state or infer that MIDI is inferior to "real" musicians, I have to do my best to try to educate them. MIDI can be step-entered or played by real musicians. If step entered, it's going to sound stiff, if played by a real musician it will reflect the talent and technique of that musician and if the musician is excellent at both, the music will be excellent.
There are a few things many of us would like to see incorporated into the MIDI section of Biab, including but not limited to and in no particular order:
1) Higher ppq resolution. A lot of the expressiveness of music comes from very minute timing variations. 120ppq is not quite adequate, especially at slower tempos. I would like to see the ppq expanded to 240ppq minimum.
2) The everlasting request for support for a diminished triad
3) Better control of shots and holds.
4) Accel, rit, cresc, dim, and other expressive controls
5) Support for multiple MIDI instruments, so I can choose the bass from my i3, the guitar from my SD90, "doctor solo" from my MT32 and other sounds from my half dozen or so other sound modules and hardware samplers.
6) User controlled (in the StyleMaker) variable length endings (up to at least 8 bars) with the ability to do a held chord at the end with an sfz - cresc.
And quite a few more that I will think of as soon as I press the submit button ;-)
MIDI and RTs both have their advantages, and each one will suit an individual user. Most will probably use both.
RTs have the advantage of better sounds. But they are only slightly better than a good MIDI sound module.
MIDI gives you the advantage of more sounds and more flexibility, plus you can customize MIDI tracks to change the expression to suit your musical ideas. If the MIDI capabilities of BiaB were improved, they could match any live performer.
Plus for the people like myself who believe that by tweaking MIDI, they can produce a more individual, more expressive, and better music, I will continue to make superior quality MIDI styles as long as you want to continue purchasing them. I won't abandon you as long as you still want the advantages that MIDI gives you.
For your MIDI upgrade to BiaB, simply go to http://www.nortonmusic.com and have some fun!!!
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+1 to all of the above, plus Jan Hammer Rules MIDI!
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+1 to all of the above, plus Jan Hammer Rules MIDI!
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Very well said Notes
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Band-in-a-Box® 2024 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!
Wir waren fleißig und haben über 50 neue Funktionen und eine erstaunliche Sammlung neuer Inhalte hinzugefügt, darunter 222 RealTracks, neue RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, abspielbare RealTracks Set 3, abspielbare RealDrums Set 2, zwei neue Sets von "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 und mehr!
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
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