Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Journeyman
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 15,544
PG Music Staff
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 15,544 |
Great tune Bob! Nice job on the video!
Have Fun! Peter Gannon PG Music Inc.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Journeyman
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728 |
Quote:
Great tune Bob! Nice job on the video!
Thank you, Peter.
I'd like to know if the credit we gave to PGM at the end of the video is adequate or if we need to make changes. I really appreciate the contribution you and your folks have made to our projects via PGM products and I want to be sure you're recognized appropriately. BTW,I made an unsuccessful attempt to contact you directly via email and was directed by staff to write you on this forum.
Sincerely, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,784
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,784 |
Nice job, i enjoyed the whole song and video.
Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2022, Realband, Harrison Mixbus 32c version 9.1324, Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,333
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,333 |
Very pro sounding, there'd be no way I'd guess that the music came from the box, and I've been around.
Partly accent, and partly my hearing loss but a some points the word comprehension was at under 80 percent for me. With headphones and the sound jacked. Check with others, if they are not getting over 90 percent it's needing a tad 'vocal' tweak.
But great job. And good luck.
John Conley Musica est vita
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,333
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,333 |
BTW, after the tracks were ready in Band in a Box what did you do to them? DAW? Plug ins?
Pre Production processing?
Thanks!
John Conley Musica est vita
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 589
Journeyman
|
Journeyman
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 589 |
Quote:
Very pro sounding, there'd be no way I'd guess that the music came from the box, and I've been around.
Partly accent, and partly my hearing loss but a some points the word comprehension was at under 80 percent for me. With headphones and the sound jacked. Check with others, if they are not getting over 90 percent it's needing a tad 'vocal' tweak.
But great job. And good luck.
John I agree with you regarding the vocal but Hawgley has posted that he doesnt accept a critique of his finished songs (I dont know if you know that)so we should accept what he has stated. Frankie
AMD Athlon 7550 dual core processor 2.51 ghz 1 87 gb ram windows 7 Ultimate yamaha rev 500 effects tacam DP-24 DAW Samson Resolv NF monitors Yamaha PSR-620 Keyboard Fender semi accoustic guitar
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,333
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,333 |
Thats ok. I'm deaf and when I listen don't know if it's me, or it's the mix.
One of my pet peeves with a lot of modern music even when my ears were perfect before the chemo wrecked them in June was I didn't get the words. Not something new either.
The girl with colitis goes by." (Real lyric: "The girl with kaleidoscope eyes," Beatles)
"Olive, the other reindeer." (Real lyric: "All of the other reindeer.")
"The ants are my friends, they're blowing in the wind." (Real lyric: "The answer is blowing in the wind," Bob Dylan.)
I have to go every 4 weeks and do the word comprehension test, after which they calibrate my hearing aids so they pick up kids screaming in the grocery store and amplify them so that it sounds like a jet plane, the the carts crash and I turn them off. So when I listen to music I know sort of count the times I don't understand anything and take note of it.
When it comes to women, if I hear them, I still can't understand them. Just ask my wife.
John Conley Musica est vita
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Journeyman
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728 |
Thanks for the input guys. I do appreciate that in our individual capacities as producers, and we all have to wear that hat at some point, there are myriad approaches to every aspect of the recording, arranging, mixing, and mastering process and we all have our own tested processes for achieving our final products. I've been doing this long enough to have confidence in my own capabilities so I tend to filter out suggestions that I see as primarily personal preference. If I listened to, and implemented every suggestion my creations wouldn't sound like they do and as we all know "management by committee" is seldom ever effective. So analyze away...and then implement your suggestions in your next project. And remember...have fun. We have an incredibly creative tool here for making music. We're living in a wonderful time, eh?
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,333
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,333 |
Well I'm no producer. But I am a consumer. I have tv shows I can't watch without close caption.
Last year I was fine. Then I had chemo. Now I'm very deaf over 2000hz.
I found out that, depending on the initial pitch of the voice the following letters are high register.
K 3400Hz f 4200Hz s 4900Hz th 5200hz
Thus if some one tells me to _u_ _ o _ _ I hear something like owc ohh and smile.
I asked a friend who has a Phd in sound engineering about music with lyrics and he told me that the upper frequencies are often pulled right out and that's what makes the music hard to understand, and impossible for me without hearing aids and even then not after 5 p.m. when my hearing tanks.
If the radiation didn't take my voice and turn it into the deepest hardest to understand bass I'd record some stuff and pluck out the above letters and jack them for interest. I guess that's not happening.
Our best friends are both music professors and Doctors of Music teaching at the university. One is a chorale/vocal specialist and she taught my daughter warm-ups where you worked with diction and she told her that you have to work at that all your life, because other wise people won't understand you. I doubt most people who never took a guitar lesson but play it ever took a vocal lesson either. Singing is communication, and if people don't understand the words, the impact is gone.
I had a barber tell me he had a customer who wouldn't talk to him, because what does a frigging barber know? At the end of the haircut, the guy (who has a really tough to understand Italian accent) told the guy.."So OK, no charge ata all. You just take thata bada haircut this stupid barber give you and never come back ok...fine..." plus a few other Italian descriptive words that went with it.
C'est la vie.
PS. I never said there was anything wrong with the song. I said I have hearing loss. When a song is in it's final stage someone with good ears should write out the words, stop and start. Then you make the decision about the singing part. Is 90 percent good enough? Not my call...that's up to the people who make it.
FWIW I never understood trying to listen to music in a car. Unless you have a very quiet car. Like trying to get the symphony to play in a shopping mall food court. Nice acoustics. Forget pianissimo.
John Conley Musica est vita
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Journeyman
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728 |
WOW...John. Quite a reply. Sorry about that hearing thing. Since the video software resamples the WAV file to 48k and then YouTube reprocesses the audio AND video before posting it, God knows what effect all that has on the original song. However there are two other posts on this song that have a link to a high-rez MP3 that may provide more clarity for you. I use very little processing on the final product, usually a little compression and an actual boosting of the highs to put back the "sparkle" that gets lost in the mixing process. This post was primarily to get PGM's input on the video credits we gave them. But in the interest of making the work available to everyone, here are the lyrics to the song. Thanks for listening ~Bob
One More Thing © 2010 Bob Buford
Here in this lonely drawer I found your faded picture Beneath the box that held your wedding ring A folded piece of paper with the words to your song The one you always loved to hear me sing
It’s just one more thing to keep me sad and lonely One more thing to break my heart in two Now if it wasn’t this, it’d just be something else to make me blue Just one more thing reminding me of you
Here in this lonely room I wake up before daylight Shaken by another dream of you Then I have my morning coffee In the cup you used to drink from Moving on is something I can’t do
It’s just one more thing to keep me sad and lonely One more thing to break my heart in two Now if it wasn’t this, it’d just be something else to make me blue Just one more thing reminding me of you
It’s just one more thing to keep me sad and lonely One more thing to break my heart in two If it wasn’t this, it’d just be something else to make me blue Just one more thing reminding me of you Just one more thing reminding me of you
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,333
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 8,333 |
John Conley Musica est vita
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 589
Journeyman
|
Journeyman
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 589 |
Quote:
Thanks for the input guys. I do appreciate that in our individual capacities as producers, and we all have to wear that hat at some point, there are myriad approaches to every aspect of the recording, arranging, mixing, and mastering process and we all have our own tested processes for achieving our final products. I've been doing this long enough to have confidence in my own capabilities so I tend to filter out suggestions that I see as primarily personal preference. If I listened to, and implemented every suggestion my creations wouldn't sound like they do and as we all know "management by committee" is seldom ever effective. So analyze away...and then implement your suggestions in your next project. And remember...have fun. We have an incredibly creative tool here for making music. We're living in a wonderful time, eh?
Bob
Actually Bob my "input" wasnt to you but John.Because he wondered if his hearing problem was the reason he found the vocal a bit low in the mix and I just pointed out "to him"that I found the same thing and I didnt think it was his hearing problem.Frankie
AMD Athlon 7550 dual core processor 2.51 ghz 1 87 gb ram windows 7 Ultimate yamaha rev 500 effects tacam DP-24 DAW Samson Resolv NF monitors Yamaha PSR-620 Keyboard Fender semi accoustic guitar
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Journeyman
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728 |
Yea, I got that, Frankie. And my response wasn't to John, but to you.
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
Video: Volume Automation in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®
Video: Audio Input Monitoring with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®
Video: Enhanced Melodists in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®!
We've enhanced the Melodists feature included in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows!
Access the Melodist feature by pressing F7 in the program to open the new MultiPicker Library and locate the [Melodist] tab.
You can now generate a melody on any track in the program - very handy! Plus, you select how much of the melody you want generated - specify a range, or apply it to the whole track.
See the Melodist in action with our video, Band-in-a-Box® 2024: The Melodist Window.
Learn even more about the enhancements to the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024upgrade/chapter3.htm#enhanced-melodist
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 DAW Plugin Version 6: New Features Specifically for Reaper®
New with the DAW Plugin Version 6.0, released with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows: the Reaper® Panel!
This new panel offers built-in specific support for the Reaper® DAW API allowing direct transfer of Band-in-a-Box® files to/from Reaper® tracks!
When you run the Plugin from Reaper®, there is a panel to set the following options:
-BB Track(s) to send: This allows you to select the Plugin tracks that will be sent Reaper.
-Destination Reaper Track: This lets you select the destination Reaper track to receive media content from the Plugin.
-At Bar: You can select a bar in Reaper where the Plugin tracks should be placed.
-Start Below Selected Track: This allows you to place the Plugin tracks below the destination Reaper track.
-Overwrite Reaper Track: You can overwrite previous content on the destination Reaper track.
-Move to Project Folder: With this option, you can move the Plugin tracks to the Reaper project folder.
-Send Reaper Instructions Enable this option to send the Reaper Instructions instead of rendering audio tracks, which is faster.
-Render Audio & Instructions: Enable this option to generate audio files and the Reaper instructions.
-Send Tracks After Generating: This allows the Plugin to automatically send tracks to Reaper after generating.
-Send Audio for MIDI Track: Enable this option to send rendered audio for MIDI tracks.
-Send RealCharts with Audio: If this option is enabled, Enable this option to send RealCharts with audio.
Check out this video highlighting the new Reaper®-specific features: Band-in-a-Box® DAW Plugin Version 6: New Features Specifically for Reaper®
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 DAW Plugin Version 6: New Features Video
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums66
Topics81,394
Posts732,489
Members38,441
|
Most Online2,537 Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|