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#99767 - 12/31/10 08:45 AM [RealBand] Re: Alright, brand new here. Please don't be afraid... [Re: Robh]
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Powertracks and Realband share the exact same MIDI engine.

So anything MIDI that Powertracks can do, Realband can do also.

If you have Realband, you also have everything that Powertracks can do.

One exception would be the TC Helicon Audio Harmony engine.


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#99768 - 12/31/10 09:40 AM [RealBand] Re: Alright, brand new here. Please don't be afraid... [Re: Funkifized]
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So, is PowerTracks just MIDI sequencer software, then?




Both PT and RB give you 48 tracks of midi and/or audio recording. Neither is 'just' MIDI.
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#99769 - 12/31/10 10:58 AM [RealBand] Re: Alright, brand new here. Please don't be afraid... [Re: Mac]
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Powertracks and Realband share the exact same MIDI engine.

So anything MIDI that Powertracks can do, Realband can do also.

If you have Realband, you also have everything that Powertracks can do.

One exception would be the TC Helicon Audio Harmony engine.


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However, beginning with the current version 2011, you can access the TCHelicon harmonies through the AUDIO HARMONY feature in either RB or BIAB

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#99770 - 12/31/10 11:10 AM [RealBand] Re: Alright, brand new here. Please don't be afraid... [Re: Pat Marr]
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However, beginning with the current version 2011, you can access the TCHelicon harmonies through the AUDIO HARMONY feature in either RB or BIAB




But only if you have installed a version of PowerTracks Pro since this is where the TCHelicon gets installed. This has always been the case as best I recall.

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#99771 - 12/31/10 11:22 AM [RealBand] Re: Alright, brand new here. Please don't be afraid... [Re: Funkifized]
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No, I think I get you. So, this isn't really sequencing software, per se?





Real band *IS* midi sequencing software, but it also has features that extend wayy beyond what most sequencers can do. Those of us who love the software do so because of all the unique features that simply do not exist in any other sequencing software

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I can't edit the chord voicings or the rhythms, just pick and choose from what RB generates?




RealBand can mix audio and midi. The MIDI portion of your songs can be edited totally, same as in any other sequencing software. The audio parts are somewhat more limited where editing is concerned. RB generates passages that fit your chords and tempo. Generated output won't always be the same, so you can generate a bunch of tracks for the same passage, then pick the best passage (much like recording multiple takes with a live musician)

If you have melodyne, you can edit the generated audio tracks quite a bit, but such audio editing tools are not a part of the RB package.

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But I can also add MIDI files in along with the realtracks, and output the MIDI file(s), realtrack, and my own recorded input into a functioning stereo recording?





Yes. And that's exactly what most of us do with this software. You can also import MP3s and align the audio with the MIDI grid very easily. This is useful for learning or recreating cover songs. I haven't found any other software that tempo maps audio and MIDI as well as this software

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I'm coming from some sequencing background in the past, and I'm lured by the idea of arranging/sequencing with real sounds.





Indeed! it is very cool, and a lot of fun! I think you'll like it!

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If I can add MIDI sounds into the mix, all the better. Of course, the important part is being able to record my own guitar playing along with all of this.




if that's what you want to do, Real Band 2011 is a perfect match for your needs!

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Am I shooting in the right direction?




not only shooting in the right direction, you've hit the bull's eye!

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#99772 - 12/31/10 02:04 PM [RealBand] Re: Alright, brand new here. Please don't be afraid... [Re: MusicStudent]
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However, beginning with the current version 2011, you can access the TCHelicon harmonies through the AUDIO HARMONY feature in either RB or BIAB




But only if you have installed a version of PowerTracks Pro since this is where the TCHelicon gets installed. This has always been the case as best I recall.




that used to be true, but it changed with this version. I don't have power tracks, never have... but starting with version 2011 I can use the audio harmony feature, which is powered by the TCHelicon engine.

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#99773 - 12/31/10 02:43 PM [RealBand] Re: Alright, brand new here. Please don't be afraid... [Re: MusicStudent]
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However, beginning with the current version 2011, you can access the TCHelicon harmonies through the AUDIO HARMONY feature in either RB or BIAB




But only if you have installed a version of PowerTracks Pro since this is where the TCHelicon gets installed. This has always been the case as best I recall.




Pat is correct you DO NOT need Powertracks for audio harmony with version 2011. Real Band gets this from BIAB now. I do not have PT installed on my laptop and it indeed is able to do audio harmonys.
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#99774 - 12/31/10 03:32 PM [RealBand] Re: Alright, brand new here. Please don't be afraid... [Re: Brian Hughes]
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Sure enuff, checked it out and you guys are indeed correct. Most have been one of the 50 new features I missed! Thanks for the info.

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#99775 - 01/01/11 01:50 AM [RealBand] Re: Alright, brand new here. Please don't be afraid... [Re: Pat Marr]
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Yeah, man. Now we're talking. I'm installing it with my 2011 upgrade right now. Warning: I'll probably be back with questions on how to use it...

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#99776 - 01/01/11 03:15 AM [RealBand] Re: Alright, brand new here. Please don't be afraid... [Re: Funkifized]
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Yeah, man. Now we're talking. I'm installing it with my 2011 upgrade right now. Warning: I'll probably be back with questions on how to use it...





Keep us posted ... I want to hear your thoughts after you've had time to play with everything!

One good way to get acquanted with BIAB is to open the style picker, and play the demo song for each style

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#99777 - 01/01/11 11:35 AM [RealBand] Re: Alright, brand new here. Please don't be afraid... [Re: Pat Marr]
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I'm well acquainted with BIAB. It's RB that I've never seen before.

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#99778 - 01/01/11 12:02 PM [RealBand] Re: Alright, brand new here. Please don't be afraid... [Re: Funkifized]
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I'm well acquainted with BIAB. It's RB that I've never seen before.



Nice PDF manual in the RB folder.
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#99779 - 01/01/11 12:25 PM [RealBand] Re: Alright, brand new here. Please don't be afraid... [Re: silvertones]
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Reading the pdf when you hit a stumbling block is a good idea, however I find most features pretty intuitive, so I hope most of it just comes to you.

When in doubt; right click an area for options. There are a lot of features accessible that way.
Right clicking on audio data brings audio options, Right clicking the track name brings up track options, etc.
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#99780 - 01/03/11 12:12 PM [RealBand] Re: Alright, brand new here. Please don't be afraid... [Re: rharv]
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Well, the .pdf that is in my RB folder is for 2010.5, and it has tons of stuff that is wrong. It cites dropdown menus that don't exist, files that aren't there, etc.

The problems I'm having now are not going to be solved by a right-click. I can't figure out how to configure the program to record from my Line 6 XTLive. Tutorial says that this should be easy, as long as the audio drivers have been set up correctly. Well, apparently not. When I use MME, I hear Real Band but no XTLive. When I choose ASIO drivers, I get no sound from anything.

This really should be a bit more user friendly.

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#99781 - 01/04/11 06:41 AM [RealBand] Re: Alright, brand new here. Please don't be afraid... [Re: Funkifized]
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Well, the .pdf that is in my RB folder is for 2010.5, and it has tons of stuff that is wrong. It cites dropdown menus that don't exist, files that aren't there, etc.




can you give specific details on the dropdown menus that are cited in the manual but which don't exist?


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The problems I'm having now are not going to be solved by a right-click. I can't figure out how to configure the program to record from my Line 6 XTLive. Tutorial says that this should be easy, as long as the audio drivers have been set up correctly. Well, apparently not. When I use MME, I hear Real Band but no XTLive. When I choose ASIO drivers, I get no sound from anything.



OK, let's go back to MME for starters since that's usually easier than ASIO.
Now look for the AUDIO DRIVERS button. After you click it, There should be two windows: one for input device and one for output device. Your Line6 should show up in the input device window. Is it there? If not, that leads to a different discussion.

If it is there, next question ... is it selected?


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This really should be a bit more user friendly.



audio configurations are a bear in pretty much every music software. I really hate messing with mine once it works. The good news is that once you get it set up, you shouldn't need to change it, and it should work from then onward.

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