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I'm exporting separate tracks (WAV files) that I will import into a DAW for mixing/processing. What steps do I need to take to ensure that the tracks come out of BiaB with the best possible quality? What BiaB audio/MIDI settings are important? Anything in particular that I need to be aware of or pay close attention to? Would this process be any different for a MIDI track vs a RealTrack and/or RealDrums? If using only RealTracks, does the MIDI setup matter at all?
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Welcome to the forum.
If you tell us which DAW, someone here will be able to be more specific.
There are no decisions to be made exporting .WAV files from BIAB: there is only CD quality of 44.1/16.
MIDI is just instructions, so if you drag a MIDI track into your DAW, you will assign a software or hardware synth to play it and select the patch (sound) within your DAW. Again, nothing to do in BIAB. The exception would be if you use BIAB to render your MIDI to audio using a VSTi.
You are correct, if you only export RealTracks (and RealDrums), it's all audio, no MIDI. But keep in mind if you have anything in the Melody or Soloist tracks, you cannot use RealTracks to play individual notes for Melody or harmony; that will require MIDI.
Is this along the lines of what you wanted to know?
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Thank you for the quick reply. I primarily use Auria on iOS. I noticed that there wasn't really any options for exporting, as you said. I was just wondering if there was anything else that affected the quality of the exported WAV file at all, particularly when using RealTracks.
On the issue of 44.1/16...do I need to have Windows set to this as opposed to 44.1/24?
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I believe BIAB will only export 44.1 / 16 bit no matter what you have told Windows to use as a default setting for recording. Likewise, my DAW is SONAR which defaults to 24 bit recording, but that has nothing to do with BIAB.
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Adding on to Matt's thoughts....
When I export,I always remove reverb and pan to the centre. I prefer to adjust these in my DAW.
If you right-click on 'Master' on the top menu, the option 'Set mix to flat dry and center' does this for all tracks.
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Thank you guys for the replies. I appreciate the advice.
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I was just wondering if there was anything else that affected the quality of the exported WAV file at all, particularly when using RealTracks. Well the most basic one would be regular version VS Audiophile version. That'll make more difference than anything else .. but it's usually not enough for most people to notice .. Audiophile is 16/44 from the start Regular version is WMA converted to 16/44 and exported. I *think* one of the behind the scenes differences in BB and RB is just when this conversion occurs. In RB I think it may occur during generation but in BB it may happen later in the Export process. This may be one of the things that makes RB appear to generate slower than BB. rharv speculation but; Far as I know RB uses the same generate engine as BB (same exact EXE file for the work), but if RB was also converting the result to 16/44 (or whatever the project bit rate is) during the generate process, and BB wasn't, that would explain why it takes longer. Anyway, depends on your needs. You CAN have 16/44 files to start with and that would probably make the biggest difference in the results, if you are worried about conversions anyway.
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Adding on to Matt's thoughts....
When I export,I always remove reverb and pan to the centre. I prefer to adjust these in my DAW.
If you right-click on 'Master' on the top menu, the option 'Set mix to flat dry and center' does this for all tracks. I just found this, and it is a time saver! But if you are manually removing reverb & panning to center, don't forget to also zero the Tone Control if you want full control in your DAW.
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(snip ...) I just found this, and it is a time saver! But if you are manually removing reverb & panning to center, don't forget to also zero the Tone Control if you want full control in your DAW. If I don't care for the "natural" sound of an instrument track but otherwise like the performance I'll tweak the tone control prior to export. It defaults to zero so there is no need to remember if you haven't used the tone control feature.
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Additional question on this same topic...
If my primary concern is exporting separate tracks (generated primarily using RealTracks) as WAVs for editing/mixing in a DAW, and assuming that my DAW is entirely separate, using different hardware/monitors, does any of the audio driver setup really matter? For example...MME vs ASIO, etc...
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I believe that answer is No.
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I have just discovered that the new 2017 Real Band exports files as "acidized" files, apparently by default. I had to go back and find out how to export un-acidized or raw waves.
Acidized files have some cool features that some DAW's will be able to read and use. However, I want raw waves. I think that, and don't quote me on this, acidized waves contain timing and pitch data and possibly more. So when you export a track in D major at 100 bpm into a DAW that can read acid files, and it's default is set to 100 bpm and C major... the song is going to be different in pitch and tempo.
So... acidized or RAW wave.... just be aware.
For exporting AUDIO with the best quality, simply export as a Wave. 16/44.1 or 24/44.1, as either is 100% compatible in a DAW like Sonar. The raw wave file transfers easily across and between any DAW platform.
Exporting midi, it doesn't matter since you will be assigning the midi to a synth in your DAW. Data is data until you assign it to a synth.
Regarding the playback and drivers.... I don't know anything about the Mac OS. However, if you are using external hardware in the form of an interface, be sure to use the recommended driver. ASIO is the preferred driver for windows based platforms. I didn't think iOS used drivers... (I'm assuming that iOS is a Mac platform) If it's not windows, I don't know anything about it and my knowledge is limited with windows on the deeper things, too.
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