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Originally Posted By: Bob Calver
i didn't get the hang of the song offset to allow for the drum count in

Bob,

Maybe this will help with understanding the bar offset a bit better...

The image below shows the bar offset settings (#1 on image).

The reason that it's usually set to -2 is to allow the 2-bar count-in that BIAB has when SGU/MGU files are loaded. Such a setting permits the song to follow the normal convention of the music starting at bar 1.

From a song layout perspective, if you have 'Bar Offset' set to -2 and then load in a BIAB file you'll see two bars (that is, bars "-1" & "0") before the song starts playing at bar 1. These first two bars are the 'offset' bars.

The settings below Bar Offset (that you had set to 1 and 1), tell the song which RB bar number is the first bar of the song (i.e. 'Start') and which bar number is the last bar of the song (i.e. 'End'). Having both set to 1 is saying "This song is 1 bar long".

Because you had the Bar Offset set to 0, this meant that if your song had a 2-bar count-in, it wouldn't start until bar 3 (hence Kent's comment about setting 'Start' to 3).

The settings on the image below say the following....

1) Bar Offset = -2 (this means a 2-bar lead-in before the song starts)

2) Start = 1 (this means the song will start at what RB has defined as bar 1 on the bar counter)

3) End = 32 (this means the song finishes at RB's bar #32)

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Noel

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Originally Posted By: Bob Calver
still having trouble when I open a seq file in Real Band. If I want to generate a RealTrack to add a part even if I select the whole track and then choose generate all I get is a few bars.
Tried setting the 'from............ to' settings to match the whole track but all i got was two bars again.
Same for me; i rarely work and worked with Realband (v5 BTW) because of these erroneous behaviors .... just found out that soloing a real track over a selected few bars won't work with RT 2691 over the selected area, on a fresh track here see below. All you get, if it works at all, is just a bar at the beginning ....

Besides, generating RealTrack solos in BIAB is also a problem, especially when there are beat-count measure changes in a song arrangement as in this one .... sort of get fed up with this; just got my real REAL strat-guitar out of the closet to do the job for now.

PS i an running the whole darn windows 1803 being administrator, and even when i select run as administrator is behaves the same ... And solo-generating the whole track just gives you only some dispensed useless solo pieces over only a few bars .. see picture 3. F

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Hi Fiddler,

This appears to be a different issue.

Can you please send the song file to support@pgmusic.com, and let us know in the email which measures you're referring to?

Thanks
Kent
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Hi Kent, I'll have to fiddle with it or make a special version then; it's a piece in the process of writing and not registered yet LoL. F

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Just to clarify my original problem some BIAB tracks worked fine but on some the start/end bars and offset seemed to have been set wrongly (not by me!) and having just upgraded from 2008 BIAB to 2018 and using RB for the first time there were settings I was unfamiliar with

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