|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 112
Apprentice
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 112 |
I know some of you collaborate sometimes to write songs, but "what if" we can use the forum to ask for some collaboration open to all the great humans around here? Something like.. "hey musicians! I made this beautiful song but is missing some piano intro or se guitar riff... anyone want to improvise something???" We can even form groups or competitions using the same style.... Just for fun of course... 
------------------------------------------ My music: https://soundcloud.com/ermar-gamarMy stuff: Stratocaster '89, PRS SE Santana, Digitech RP90 Multi Effect, Vocalist Live 3, Digital Piano Korg SP, Studio One 3.5, Presonus Audiobox, BB 2018
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,282
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,282 |
I know some of you collaborate sometimes to write songs, but "what if" we can use the forum to ask for some collaboration open to all the great humans around here? Something like.. "hey musicians! I made this beautiful song but is missing some piano intro or se guitar riff... anyone want to improvise something???" We can even form groups or competitions using the same style.... Just for fun of course... I'd say you just did. I think there's another thread relative to this one which was some months back. Anyway....many here collaborate so I'd guess you'll generate some interest and you got a bump. Good luck on your quest....
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 112
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 112 |
 You're right.... I wrote the post because sometimes I get very bored playing my stuffm ,mainly because I don't sing... Anyway… was just an idea :-) Or maybe I have to post a song with me singing? :-) I don't think is a good idea.. :-D
------------------------------------------ My music: https://soundcloud.com/ermar-gamarMy stuff: Stratocaster '89, PRS SE Santana, Digitech RP90 Multi Effect, Vocalist Live 3, Digital Piano Korg SP, Studio One 3.5, Presonus Audiobox, BB 2018
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,326
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,326 |
Just look at all the really cool collaborations that people are doing. Collaborating is alive and well here. To me, that's the sign of a healthy musical community.
Often, much of the collaboration takes place behind the scenes. As you listen to the songs, take note of the talents of the folks involved. Do they sing well, do they play an instrument or do they rely totally on RT's? Find someone who has the skills you are looking for. From within the forum, you can PM them to see if they're up for a collab. BTW: just because someone relies totally on the RT's doesn't detract from their ability to write. In fact, it can do just the opposite. Some of the best writers can't play an instrument very well. However.... It frees them from the need to be a master of multiple instruments and concentrate solely on their writing, production, and singing.
Of course, you can also simply just post here in the SONGWRITING forum. THat's one of the main purposes for this forum. Yeah, it's a place to post info on how to write better and all that stuff, but it's also a place to post asking for help on writing and recording a project with other PG'ers.
So.... have something ready to go.... could be nothing more than the idea and a verse or a chorus, PM someone you think might be interested and see what they say.
I've been turned down by numerous folks for one reason or another, and had a few bail out in the middle of the project.... but the ones that said yes and completed the project.... man, those are some good songs. I'd go through 10 "no" responses to get one that said yes and a really good song was the result. "no's" don't bother me. It's kinda like dating and marriage.... you have to find the right collaborator and everything falls into place naturally. Try to force it, and things end poorly.
Last edited by Guitarhacker; 08/02/18 04:42 AM.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 112
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 112 |
Oh I have everything clear now. Thank you for your tips.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,664
PG Music Staff
|
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,664 |
Hi EMG, very cool post and a great idea! Looking forward to see what comes out of a collaboration.
Cheers,
Joe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 824
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 824 |
It would be a good idea to have a Collaboration forum. That would be easier than sifting through the forums to see what is required.
Chris
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,744
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,744 |
This is a great idea, and I tell you why. I am a regional coordinator for the Nashville Songwriter's Association (NSAI is not just country, but all genres) and the #1 thing that the organization stresses above and beyond anything else is:
THE POWER OF COLLABORATION.In brief, most pros believe you simply will not grow and get better and stretch your limitations if you do not collaborate. Collaborators force you to get real, to work harder to make your song stronger. They bring honesty, fresh ideas, novel approaches, and things you never would have thought of. In fact, I have often heard it said that there are three rules to growing better as a songwriter: 1. Collaborate. 2. Collaborate. 3. Collaborate. Since Band-in-a-Box is the world's most awesome tool for songwriters, in my opinion at least (I couldn't live without it, seriously) it makes all the sense in the world to have a collaboration forum with some process behind it. There are SO MANY opportunities out there for film, sync licensing and on and on where some people on the forum would have a much better shot if they collaborated. As but one example, look at all the postings where they ask for a gentle song with soaring female vocals. You have the pretty song idea but you sound like a 4-pack a day Marlboro smoker. Or whatever. So many different nuances to this. Great idea. Somebody start this. (It needs some process thinking though, almost like a billboard--"I got....but I need...gonna pitch it to..interested??? P.M. me etc.) * P.S. Behind the scenes, I am right now working with Noel Adams who is a scholar when it comes to lyrics. He is coaching me and teaching me some stuff about how to up my game with lyrics to make them, stronger, more accessible and more commercial. A really great and smart guy. I am learning all kinds of things. BUT, it is HARD. You can't have much of an ego when you get down to the nitty gritty. I have re-written one thing like 20 times and keep tearing it up and starting over. Collaborators and coaches here on this forum are the greatest thing ever, but when you decide to get better it is like "no pain no gain." It hurts. Those growing exercises can bring the aches and pains. But you gotta do it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,664
PG Music Staff
|
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,664 |
That is very insightful David, thank you so much for sharing this! Definitely something I need to consider in my own writing practices!
Cheers,
Joe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,326
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,326 |
This is a great idea, and I tell you why. I am a regional coordinator for the Nashville Songwriter's Association (NSAI is not just country, but all genres) and the #1 thing that the organization stresses above and beyond anything else is:
THE POWER OF COLLABORATION.In brief, most pros believe you simply will not grow and get better and stretch your limitations if you do not collaborate. Collaborators force you to get real, to work harder to make your song stronger. They bring honesty, fresh ideas, novel approaches, and things you never would have thought of. In fact, I have often heard it said that there are three rules to growing better as a songwriter: 1. Collaborate. 2. Collaborate. 3. Collaborate. Since Band-in-a-Box is the world's most awesome tool for songwriters, in my opinion at least (I couldn't live without it, seriously) it makes all the sense in the world to have a collaboration forum with some process behind it. There are SO MANY opportunities out there for film, sync licensing and on and on where some people on the forum would have a much better shot if they collaborated. As but one example, look at all the postings where they ask for a gentle song with soaring female vocals. You have the pretty song idea but you sound like a 4-pack a day Marlboro smoker. Or whatever. So many different nuances to this. Great idea. Somebody start this. (It needs some process thinking though, almost like a billboard--"I got....but I need...gonna pitch it to..interested??? P.M. me etc.) * P.S. Behind the scenes, I am right now working with Noel Adams who is a scholar when it comes to lyrics. He is coaching me and teaching me some stuff about how to up my game with lyrics to make them, stronger, more accessible and more commercial. A really great and smart guy. I am learning all kinds of things. BUT, it is HARD. You can't have much of an ego when you get down to the nitty gritty. I have re-written one thing like 20 times and keep tearing it up and starting over. Collaborators and coaches here on this forum are the greatest thing ever, but when you decide to get better it is like "no pain no gain." It hurts. Those growing exercises can bring the aches and pains. But you gotta do it. THIS^^^^^^
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987 |
EMG,
An important consideration when collaborating, and one that I keep forgetting... always save your .sgu and .mgu files so the other parties can use them.
I got in the bad habit of deleting those critical files after rendering to .wav or .mp3 and my collaborator has nothing to work with.
It's a good idea to save everything until the project is completed.
How would I know this?! lol
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 112
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 112 |
Hi LPman mmmm...... can you explain better? I'm a little confused about your post... :-)
------------------------------------------ My music: https://soundcloud.com/ermar-gamarMy stuff: Stratocaster '89, PRS SE Santana, Digitech RP90 Multi Effect, Vocalist Live 3, Digital Piano Korg SP, Studio One 3.5, Presonus Audiobox, BB 2018
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Songwriting
|
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 433
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 433 |
Hi EMG I added a layered paino improvisation to a YouTube user named meta sage. I wanted to see if was possible to add a custom piano backtrack to what he was saying ( link below ). When I listen to the 9 minutes of my piano alone I hear unresolved progression parts. So I removed it. Now I have a 5.58 minutes. But I am bored with it. I take my 5.58 minutes piano midi and feed it to BIAB with a country style eliminating my piano altogether. I mute piano 2 my piano playing cause it doesn't match anymore with the country style. So now I can develop, a new theme bass-line, and salvage the parts I like of this song, to make a new song. As a collaboration, the MGX file can be salvageable as one see's fit. I hope I explained this correctly... meta sage R Ra.mp3
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums66
Topics81,612
Posts735,097
Members38,515
| |
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean