yes, I tried to reinstall coyote -as well as all of ptpa. Here is the latest: I did so much messing around, that ptpa stopped responding -windows had me close the program. then when I reopened it coyote, and effect plug ins all were back in working order! Go figure? now the only problem is I am trying to record a drum track from my midi keyboard. I set the track up for midi channel 10 and patch for general midi drum kit -that use to work. but now I get the drum sounds AND piano notes being recorded. Does this have something to do with ports? I am using an audigy 5/rx soundcard creative synth as out put and input from the keyboard is an e-mu xmid 1x1. Thanks for the help