Thanks Everyone

I've been able to bring up Jamstix in Ableton lite and use Midi Clock to get them to somewhat sync. I'll have to play with buffer sizes, or get midi-ox in the loop to get the sync rock solid.

This is too bad, I also tried to pull in a synth into real band and have the arpegiator sync. I'll try the second daw trick with that also.

Thanks for the Traction bundle info. It looks like a cool daw.

I'll just add that JS works sweet in Reaper! Nuff said.

The developer has worked with several other programs like Sonar, Reaper, Multitrackstudios and found solutions. I hope that PG would be willing to work out the problem, but JS is not the only Plug that does not work well in PG stuff.

There were three threads back in 06 and 07 where the JS developer Ralph discussed this and PG was contacted by forum members, Jazzmammal was one i believe and while PG wanted to resolve it, they decided that it was for a later revision. If you have ever gone to JS website and watched the videos you will see just how powerful this program could be with RB, and PTPA. between the abilities of RDs and Jamstix track there is virtually no drum track that could not be made to sound very live and real. I know I and others have mentioned this many times here, but I really hope Peter and Jeff can maybe take a little time to contact Ralph and see if this can't be resolved. I think while it might drive some sales to JS, also the ability to use that program in PG product might make some over there think about adding BiaB and RB to the arsenal.

It isn't just Jamstix. As pointed out already, any VST or VSTi that uses tempo clock from the host simply doesn't work as far as I can tell with an older version of PTPA.

I like to use tempo-synced delay effects. The one I like to use in particular is a freebie called Bionic Delay. Instead of messing with calculating delays in mS, you just use the note value that makes sense - 1/8th, 1/16th, etc. If you change the tempo of the song just a bit, no big deal, the VST comes right along with.

That Tracktion deal also comes with a fairly complete install of Drumcore - which I'll be trying out probably first thing once I decide to install T3.

So, whatever it is in the coding of how PG products handle plugins with a midi tempo send, it just doesn't work. Jamstix is just one VSTi that needs that midi info to properly do it's 'Jamming'.

-Scott

The new JS 3 is absolutly incredible. It also works flawlessly in MTS and MC5 with is a cheap work around too a midi in MC5 and open JS and build a drum track. I do not use JS as much since i love some of the RD tracks, and think they are very good especially for live work. For recording original tunes, i use either RDs or JS tracks where i can output 8 drum tracks and mix them.

I own 2.5 so it is a $39 upgrade to 3 weeeeee

A quick off topic question on JS. I am looking to do backing track similar to Loreena Mc Kennett's Mummers Dance or one of the others that have a Irish Bodhran sound or other hand drum sound. Will JS work for this in the basic package or an add on, if anyone knows.
Mighrt be a nice Christmas treat, thanks Wyndham

JS comes with typical kits, i doubt the irish Bodhran sound is there, there is the new Jamcussion addon, but still that would be a reach. The RDs are your best bet, or download some loops

Thanks,I'll dig into it tonight. Just received 2011 and sounds like a lot of great new RT's to play with as well. Wyndham

No they have not addressed the VSTi issue as far as I know.

Nope. Rob and I are two California boys who stay on top of this issue. If there were any changes we would know about it. I stand by what I said last year. It seems like it just can't be done. Something in the core programming code I guess. It's too bad, it's the one thing holding RB back. That and automation.

Look at how responsive PG has been in this latest 2012 version. They added virtually everything that a lot of folks have been asking for since forever. Except the VST timing thing. I doubt they just forgot or thought it wasn't important, it simply can't be done imho.

Bob

i have kind of given up on that one. I guess i will use RB as always, live playback, and song sketch board. For full mixing of new material i guess i have to use other programs, if I want top notch automation, and VSTi time lock.

I use Jamstix in RB all the time for midi playback, where i want a cover songs original drum sounds. Then i use RDs where i like a more "versionish" Drum track.

That's a shame.
Oh Well
Thanks for the responses.

Still trying, hopefully next version should be fixed.

I'm no engineer, I'm like a deer with no eyes when it comes programing but LMMS has "Sync VST Plugins to Host Playback" same with VSTHost , and they both have available source codes.

https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/184
https://github.com/LMMS/lmms




I can slave another DAW running Kontakt, EZDrummer2, EZKeys, Temper, Wav Player VST's etc.. to RB with the Midi Out Clock and it works how it should with position and tempo but there is too much delay.

I have used Jamstix longer than I have used BB.

I never tried to use in in BB however. I always work in BB in composer mode..... then I move to RB for the tracks and finally export to Cakewalk as my DAW and mixing platform.

In Cakewalk, I can easily drop JS into a track and let it do what it does best. It works perfectly in that DAW environment. And I would recommend that you use it there.

This song....>>>> http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11198785 is a JS drum track, created and mixed in Sonar.

Thanks Herb, love that song, well done.

When I'm working with an artist in front of RB it is a real pain having to go from one DAW back to the other because I can't make the drum track up how we need it in RB with EZDrummer.
It would be awesome to be able to do it all in RB start to finished, it kills the creativeness stopping and going from one to the other, that's why I get so $%#!@ off and frustrated, it's like getting up in the middle of sex and going to fix a loose floorboard lol. Also not being able to mute sections of track/s with Nodes YET be able to still use the mixer.

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This is what I gotta to do, mixdown without RD's to wav open Reaper and build the drums up, they want intros here fills there cymbal roll here build up there and so on, you can't do that with RD's "yet", in EZD2 you can do anything ! so easy, easy ? maybe that's where the name is from ? then you might add another instrument somewhere and you gotta change a drum section so you gotta mixdown and go back to Reaper again just because of these little bugs.

Reaper_EZD2.mp4

You can try this Slave Sync Live Professor Free to Realband/Biab/PT until the VST Sync problem is fixed.

SR