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Posted By: pghboemike how to record a multi-timbral instrument - 01/15/13 04:50 PM
i would like to record the auto accompaniment performance (8 tracks at once) of my wk-7500 keyboard using realbnd

best way to accomplish this?
Do you want to record the midi, audio, or both?

Is the keyboard a Casio (the WK model number indicates it could be)? As I recall, the Casio keyboards don't have more than a left/right (or Channel 1/Channel 2) audio out.

Depending on the keyboard, you would need 8 assignable mono audio outputs (one for each track preferred to eliminate channel cross-talk in stereo), or 4 assignable stereo audio outputs (panning hard left and right for each track) . For example, my Yamaha Motif (Classic and ES rack Motif) have 4 assignable outputs (more with optional plug-in boards). So that is the limit for assigned output in my case. You'll also need an audio interface between the keyboard and your PC (and your DAW, in this case Realband) that can handle the number of channels (Presonus, MOTU,and others have unit with this channel capacity).

If your keyboard does not have the required number of assignable outputs, or only has the monitor output/stereo output, than you can mute all but one or two output voices (tracks/channels) on the keyboard (and pan hard left and right as in the case of stereo on the keyboard), and record one or two voices each pass. This is doable as a work-around. You just need to put the keyboard Local Control Off mode and let Realband trigger (start the playback) if you've already recorded the performance on the keyboard, or if playing it realtime, use the keyboard to trigger the recording in Realband). Just make sure you have at least one empty bar (all rests) to allow for initial delay (if any) on the keyboard or Realband.

Another possibility is if your keyboard as an optical output, then you can connect it to a compatible optioal in (e.g., Presonus AudioBox 1818VSL, that accomodates 8 channels via Optical Input.

If you are playig the performance yourself, you might consider recording the MIDI out from the keyboard as well, just in case you want to capture the notation and/or fix/modify one thing or another.

In my case, I can capture 6 audio tracks simultaneously from my Motif units (due to the keyboard audio out limit) and up to 10 channels on my audio inteface (Presonus firewire).

Richard
thanks richard
i should have mention that i want to record the midi performance of he casio wk-7500

been reading th manual andhave some ides i'll report on the results
Just record it onto one track, then use
Edit-Extract channels to Tracks.

If you want to control which track get which MIDI channel, use the channel table offered up as a checkbox along the way.
Quick and easy. No special setup required.
Ok, if it's the MIDI auto accompaniment, this is what you need to do.

1) There's a setting in the Casio's MIDI menu to enable auto accompaniment out. Make sure you've got this switched on.

2) Start with a blank sequence on RB and set the tempo to the same as the Casio.

3) In RB go to OPTIONS - SYNC SOURCE and set it to MIDI SYNC.

4) Select track one in RB and click on record. RB should now be waiting for a start signal.

5) Start the sequence playing on the Casio. RB should start at the same time.

6) Stop the Casio and RB should stop too. If it doesn't, click stop.

7) In RB change the sync setting back to internal.

8) Also in RB go to EDIT - EXTRACT CHANNELS TO TRACKS. This will separate out the individual instruments from the Casio. If you're using GM sounds on the Casio and a GM module in RB, then you should be able to play the sequence.

9) If you want to change any of the patch settings, you'll have to strip out the ones which are embedded from the Casio. This is a separate subject and there are various way to do it - let me know if you want this info as well.

10) You may need to quantize the tracks if there was some latency during the recording.

Hope you can follow this. Get back to me if you've any problems.

ROG.
Hi rharv. Typing at the same time again, but it took me longer because I went for the overkill !

ROG.
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