Simple but realistic acoustic guitars, organs, basses - 01/08/14 09:29 PM
Hi folks,
big feature request :
basic acoustic rhythm guitars that can actually be used without much editing and masking, important :
- stick to the entered chords at all cost, no embellishments, no fancy stuff, except for maybe a different chord inversion as an alternative, or maybe capo 5
- strumming patterns starting out from the most generic versions, like downstroke (DS) on each quarter, eights with alternating DS-US, generic patterns like < DS * DS * DS US DS US > and so on, simple backbeat patterns ...
- and, absolutely crucial, stops and holds that sound believable even when played alone in a guitar / vocal arrangement, no "timid ducking away" or "playing something that might or might not fit", a stop is a stop, a hold is a hold, both should use the actual chord programmed.
- same for organ tracks, especially regarding stops and holds. While the current RTs do mostly sound great (still a tiny bit too "creative" at times), the stops and holds are a joke, sorry. Dropping a lonely low root note two octaves below instead of the actual chord just doesn't cut it.
- how about some basic bass RTs, pure straight eights, shuffled eights, pure "amsterdam", or even a simple alternating bass following the "secret golden Nashville rule", i.e. fitting every imaginable chord change scenario at the expense of sounding "creative" ?
Why am I asking for this ?
I use RTs as sketchpad for writing songs, so I can experiment with varying chord sequences, song structures etc without having to rerecord real instruments for every little tryout or change - most or all instrument RTs will be replaced with song-specific real recordings later on, when the basic structure of the song is fixed.
BiaB and RTs would be ideal for that workflow, if it only had a bunch of "boring" no-nonsense rhythm tracks as described. A quick b7 in a major chord rhythm might sound cool at first glance, unless your vocal line should feature a maj7 at that point in time - get my drift ?
Sticking strictly to what's programmed would keep your artistic freedom intact, you can always insert a more specific chord where needed ...
I would certainly be willing to purchase a well done set of no-nonsense RTs along these lines !
thanks for reading,
Rhino
Since this request might be interesting for future 3rd party RT builders as well, I hope you'll allow me cross-posting this in the relevant forum section, too.
big feature request :
basic acoustic rhythm guitars that can actually be used without much editing and masking, important :
- stick to the entered chords at all cost, no embellishments, no fancy stuff, except for maybe a different chord inversion as an alternative, or maybe capo 5
- strumming patterns starting out from the most generic versions, like downstroke (DS) on each quarter, eights with alternating DS-US, generic patterns like < DS * DS * DS US DS US > and so on, simple backbeat patterns ...
- and, absolutely crucial, stops and holds that sound believable even when played alone in a guitar / vocal arrangement, no "timid ducking away" or "playing something that might or might not fit", a stop is a stop, a hold is a hold, both should use the actual chord programmed.
- same for organ tracks, especially regarding stops and holds. While the current RTs do mostly sound great (still a tiny bit too "creative" at times), the stops and holds are a joke, sorry. Dropping a lonely low root note two octaves below instead of the actual chord just doesn't cut it.
- how about some basic bass RTs, pure straight eights, shuffled eights, pure "amsterdam", or even a simple alternating bass following the "secret golden Nashville rule", i.e. fitting every imaginable chord change scenario at the expense of sounding "creative" ?
Why am I asking for this ?
I use RTs as sketchpad for writing songs, so I can experiment with varying chord sequences, song structures etc without having to rerecord real instruments for every little tryout or change - most or all instrument RTs will be replaced with song-specific real recordings later on, when the basic structure of the song is fixed.
BiaB and RTs would be ideal for that workflow, if it only had a bunch of "boring" no-nonsense rhythm tracks as described. A quick b7 in a major chord rhythm might sound cool at first glance, unless your vocal line should feature a maj7 at that point in time - get my drift ?
Sticking strictly to what's programmed would keep your artistic freedom intact, you can always insert a more specific chord where needed ...
I would certainly be willing to purchase a well done set of no-nonsense RTs along these lines !
thanks for reading,
Rhino
Since this request might be interesting for future 3rd party RT builders as well, I hope you'll allow me cross-posting this in the relevant forum section, too.