Not , do you still write songs and lyrics. I'm assuming most people here, do. What this is asking about is more of the "how do you write" as opposed to what seems to be the obvious answer.
Do you type it out or do you still use a pad and pencil or pen to write out the lyrics?
For decades I used a pad and pencil. When I got Band in a Box I started using the built in document feature. It was easier to enter, edit and work on the lyrics.
Anyway.... In one of my HRD dog topic Facebook groups I came across this article. It's certainly food for thought as it's the flip side of the same coin since I have heard the same thing about music from the point of actually playing an instrument vs just editing music in our computers.
Heres the article:
A Norwegian neuroscientist spent 20 years proving that the act of writing by hand changes the human brain in ways typing physically cannot, and almost nobody outside her field has read the paper.
Her name is Audrey van der Meer.
She runs a brain research lab in Trondheim, and the paper that closed the argument was published in 2024 in a journal called Frontiers in Psychology. The finding is brutal enough that it should have changed every classroom on Earth.
The experiment was simple. She recruited 36 university students and put each one in a cap with 256 sensors pressed against their scalp to record brain activity. Words flashed on a screen one at a time.
Sometimes the students wrote the word by hand on a touchscreen using a digital pen, and sometimes they typed the same word on a keyboard. Every neural response was recorded for the full five seconds the word stayed on screen.
Then her team looked at the part of the data most researchers had ignored for years, which is how different parts of the brain were communicating with each other during the task.
When the students wrote by hand, the brain lit up everywhere at once.
The regions responsible for memory, sensory integration, and the encoding of new information were all firing together in a coordinated pattern that spread across the entire cortex. The whole network was awake and connected.
When the same students typed the same word, that pattern collapsed almost completely.
Most of the brain went quiet, and the connections between regions that had been alive seconds earlier were nowhere to be found on the EEG.
Same word, same brain, same person, and two completely different neurological events.
The reason turned out to be something nobody had really paid attention to before her work. Writing by hand is not one motion but a sequence of thousands of tiny micro-movements coordinated with your eyes in real time, where each letter is a different shape that requires the brain to solve a slightly different spatial problem.
Your fingers, wrist, vision, and the parts of your brain that track position in space are all working together to produce one letter, then the next, then the next.
Typing throws all of that away. Every key on a keyboard requires the exact same finger motion regardless of which letter you are pressing, which means the brain has almost nothing to integrate and almost no problem to solve.
Van der Meer said it plainly in her interviews.
Pressing the same key with the same finger over and over does not stimulate the brain in any meaningful way, and she pointed out something that should scare every parent who handed their kid an iPad.
Children who learn to read and write on tablets often cannot tell letters like b and d apart, because they have never physically felt with their bodies what it takes to actually produce those letters on a page.
A decade before her, two researchers at Princeton ran the same fight using a completely different method and ended up at the same answer. Pam Mueller and Daniel Oppenheimer tested 327 students across three experiments, where half took notes on laptops with the internet disabled and half took notes by hand, before testing everyone on what they actually understood from the lectures they had watched.
The handwriting group won by a wide margin on every question that required real understanding rather than surface recall.
The reason was hiding in the transcripts of what the two groups had actually written down.
The laptop students typed almost word for word, capturing more total content but processing almost none of it as they went, while the handwriting students physically could not write fast enough to transcribe a lecture in real time, which forced them to listen carefully, decide what actually mattered, and put it in their own words on the page.
That single act of choosing what to keep was the learning itself, and the keyboard had quietly skipped the choosing and skipped the learning along with it.
Two studies. Two countries. Same answer.
Handwriting makes the brain work. Typing lets it coast.
Every note you have ever typed instead of written went into your brain through a thinner pipe. Every meeting, every book highlight, every idea you captured on your phone instead of on paper was processed at half depth.
You did not forget those things because your memory is bad. You forgot them because typing never woke the part of the brain that would have made them stick.
The fix is the thing your grandmother already knew.
Pick up a pen. Write the thing down. The slower road is the faster one.
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The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
Hi Herb! I type lyrics and chords straight into a Word document nowadays, and usually into BIAB at the same time. This is purely for expediency and storage. But, I like handwriting better. When I used to write songs by hand, I would write the lyrics with chords above, and often drew a stave and wrote the notation for the melody as well, so if I ever came back to it, the notation would jog my memory.
Interesting research. I have to admit there feels something more wholesome about handwriting - maybe it’s the brain workout?
I also have a favourite brand of pen - Uni-ball UB-157 Eye Fine Point Roller blue - using it gives me an enormous sense of well-being!
It seems these two studies are looking at different things.
The first study notes that there is a physicality that is required to internalize letters shapes based on a different study. What that first study seems to show is how inefficient writing is - it requires massive mental work on the part of university students, who (hopefully) are not struggling to tell an 'a' from a 'b'.
In the second study, I suspect that the students who were typing were focused on their perceived task - transcribing the lecture, rather than learning it. But I agree that simply writing the words is a different activity.
On the other hand, writing lyrics is a different activity than listening to a lecture. I'm not sure how much it relates to handwriting. I find it much more efficient to move words and rewrite using a keyboard than handwritten notes, which quickly become a mess.
For the reason that David pointed out, I type out my lyrics in Excel as my mind is too jumbled when I'm coming up with lyrics. Writing it down on paper just gets too messy.
With Excel, I tend to have a list of ideas or lines in a right-hand column that I'll move around and try to fit into the main body of lyrics that I'm assembling in a left-hand column. I find it easier to do that in Excel than in a Word document.
Now, when I'm free-writing to get some ideas for a song, I might write out some ideas with pen and paper, but I'll also do that on the computer; whatever I have closest to me at the time.
Also, when I'm learning a cover song, I'll write out the lyrics by hand as I've found it helps me learn the lyrics more quickly.
I saw that article and it hit home in quite a few ways.
My situation is a bit different. I hand-wrote lyrics on legal or steno pads with cross-outs and inserts as the lyrics came together. Only when done would I use a typewriter, later a computer to enter them.
That changed seventeen years ago when I had a massive stroke losing the dominant side of my body—I'm left handed. Though I write daily, lyrics are few and far between nowadays—it just doesn't give me the pleasure that I used to enjoy.
Three months ago, I had the Vivistim implant done. I am patient #2 on the West Coast. Patient #1 turned out to be my piano tuner for thirty years till his stroke a month after mine. We were featured speakers at the Pacific Stroke Association conference last Wednesday talking about our experiences with the process.
Since then, my main progress has been handwriting. I have begun writing cursive again—something I never taught my right hand in seventeen years. I can't just pick up my fountain pen (ball and gel pens are less forgiving as to angle) and go—my arm has not caught up to my hand yet—but I am enjoying the struggle and the process. I feel it may unlock that creativity again; at least, that's the plan.
We'll see...
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In my college days I usually attempted to write down as much as possible during the lecture so I could learn it later during a study session. If I had had a computer I would have typed my notes. I doubt it would have made much of a difference in my overall college success since learning is a lot more than just taking notes.
As for writing lyrics I never use pen and paper any more. The process of hand writing brings me no joy and I rewrite everything so much it would likely cause me to abandon the craft altogether.
As for what tool I use to write lyrics...my favorite is Notepad++ (NOT MS Notepad!) Notepad++ is an extremely powerful text editor perfect for lyric writing, coding, hex editing, searching text in external text files, etc. I probably use only 10% of what it can do. Oh, and it is completely FREE! https://notepad-plus-plus.org/
Virtually all of my writing is done on my computer. The main reasons are that it is easier for me and it is legible, my handwriting is a lot like my doctor's. Arthritis makes it difficult for me to write.
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Well, at least you can actually read it. I often go back to something I've written and after looking at it from several different angles and pondering over it, I still can't decipher it. I had a cashier ask me one day when I signed the credit card thing if I was a doctor. I asked her what made her ask that. She said, "your signature is totally illegible". Yes, I reckon it is. I had actually taken to printing the things I really needed to read later. What it is, is that my brain is 5 letters ahead of my hand, at times even on the next word, and my hand tries to catch up and the result would have Egyptologists who deciphered the hieroglyphics totally baffled.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both.
The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
I used to carve my lyrics into stones, but I stopped because typos are such a PITA to fix. But to be honest, I still mostly write lyrics by hand. Why? Because a pen and a sheet of paper are more than just tools for putting characters and words on paper. When I'm writing and get stuck, I (unconsciously) start drawing little pictures (just like most people do during a long phone call). Or replace the dot on the "i" with a little heart if it's a love song. Or draw two eyes, a nose, and a mouth inside a uppercase "O" that’s smiling at me. Or I draw an arrow from line 12 to line 2 to show where that line should go,. Or highlight passages with borders or underlines. Or cross them out. Or put exclamation marks where the cool stuff is.
You can always see how the text evolves, the process of writing. With a text editor and unlimited undo, you only see the final result. The process itself remains hidden and is quickly forgotten. That's a completely different stimulus for the brain.
And last but not least, pen and paper work anywhere above sea level.
Pardon the intrusion but my background in clinical psychology made a rare appearance 😀 which was a result of the very sweeping conclusions as expressed in the posted article. Regardless it’s all interesting and well worthy of studying which I’ll do from both perspectives. BTW, the Mueller/Oppenheimer study was also later found to be statistically inconclusive.
Bud
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Well back when I was a youngster traipsin' around up there in the North I done got me a piece of good schulin from sum old schul with a fancy name that started with an H but I can't remember now, but I do remember they had a red flag and the worst football team on the planet. Also I do know I was over there wiring up some wires to people's skull caps over there at the medical schul while I was studying me a good piece of psychophysiology and I founds out lots a interesting things about the way people thunk and feels and I learnt me some pretty interesting stuff... but the most important thing I learnt was that when I was taking an old class in graduate level medical school grade biostatistics that made a lot of people cry their eyeballs out when they made a D, I fount out that if I wrote down all the formulas with a pencil on a piece of paper and stared at it for a while and then wrote some more until my hand started aching and then solved all the equations with my hand using a pencil and a piece of paper instead of a computer then I usually made an A but when I didn't do this sometimes I would cry my eyeballs out too. well I guess I about got enough schulin now and I can go about writing myself some new tunes.
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With a text editor and unlimited undo, you only see the final result.
An excellent point that really bothered me initially when I made the switch to text editor from paper. But I quickly figured out a solution to that problem that really works for me!
Every song I write starts with an idea or a prompt so I type them into my text editor and then scroll those a bit down the page. Then I type a bunch of keywords that might work in my song along with rhyming words and scroll those a bit down the page.. Next comes my first draft and, unless it is perfect (it never is), I scroll it down, copy/paste it above and start working on draft 2. Each time, before I make a significant change, I copy/paste the set of lyrics below my workspace and then work on the new draft.
For me, this is an ideal technique because I can type faster and more legible plus I never lose my changes and previous drafts. Text files are small so they don't take up much space. And I have a full chronology of each song's history with way more detail than I could ever fit in the margins of a piece of paper.
There are lots of ways to improve on this. You could add date/time stamps on each revision. You could switch to a word processor and then mark up text with strikethrough, bold, etc. maybe even use features that let you hide/show sections. You could even buy songwriting software like MasterWriter. Heck, Trent Reznor, Rob Thomas and David Foster can't all be wrong!
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