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Any ideas for solutions?
Latest versions on both FL Studio and BIAB 2022 (918).
Both using the same sample rate 44100.

Everything on computer's HD.

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I have all the latest versions.
BIAB VST 4.3.26
Both STUDIO ONE and FL STUDIO will crash.
I only use BIAB VST standalone now.


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Welcome to the forums, JVLaine! Is there anything in particular that you click on in the plugin that makes it crash? You could also try Running FL Studio as an Administrator and see if that helps.


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Originally Posted By: Chantelle - PG Music
Welcome to the forums, JVLaine! Is there anything in particular that you click on in the plugin that makes it crash? You could also try Running FL Studio as an Administrator and see if that helps.


This issue does not happen as often when in the "preferences/Daw Settings" tab, "Highlight Bar from Daw is set to 'none' Anything else FL Studio will crash almost immediately. I have tried all the various suggested recommendations with no real effects. I have downloaded the latest update (Build 920). now Fl Studio just shuts down when you try to use it!.....

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Welcome to the forums, JVLaine! Is there anything in particular that you click on in the plugin that makes it crash? You could also try Running FL Studio as an Administrator and see if that helps.


This issue does not happen as often when in the "preferences/Daw Settings" tab, "Highlight Bar from Daw is set to 'none' Anything else FL Studio will crash almost immediately. I have tried all the various suggested recommendations with no real effects. I have downloaded the latest update (Build 920). now Fl Studio just shuts down when you try to use it!.....


Still after the latest updates both BIAB(920) and FL Studio (20.9.1) this problem persists. Running as an Administrator does not help. My workaround for the time being is to run the DAW Plugin standalone and not inside FL Studio. Rather annoying.

BTW I am not a "Newbie". Been using Biab for over 15 years, and registered to this forum 2005.

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Thank you for the feedback JVLaine! This will be fixed for the next build. Please let me know if you are still having issues after testing the next build.

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The newest update that corrects the crashing in FL Studio is available here: https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=712019#Post712019


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For anyone wanting to stay up to date with the latest bug fixes for the plugin, you can find the latest officially release patches here:

Windows: https://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm
Mac: https://www.pgmusic.com/support_macintoshupdates.htm

These patches included fixes for the plugin as well, so if you're ever experiencing crashes it's a good idea to make sure you're on the latest build first. The patch updates are cumulative, so you can go ahead and simply install the latest one for your specific version year.


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The newest update that corrects the crashing in FL Studio is available here:
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=712019#Post712019

Is this available only to J.V Laine. Or all of us having this problem. because when I try to access this, I get an access denied and I cannot return back to where I left off. please!.... I really need this.

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Originally Posted By: Robert1752
The newest update that corrects the crashing in FL Studio is available here:
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=712019#Post712019

Is this available only to J.V Laine. Or all of us having this problem. because when I try to access this, I get an access denied and I cannot return back to where I left off. please!.... I really need this.


That link goes to DAW Plugin update to build 4.5.33 which is still in beta testing. If you can't follow the link than you will need one of the PGTeam to get you in. Will have to wait for them to come along.


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That link goes to DAW Plugin update to build 4.5.33 which is still in beta testing. If you can't follow the link than you will need one of the PGTeam to get you in. Will have to wait for them to come along.
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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
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The newest update that corrects the crashing in FL Studio is available here:
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=712019#Post712019

Is this available only to J.V Laine. Or all of us having this problem. because when I try to access this, I get an access denied and I cannot return back to where I left off. please!.... I really need this.


Not even JV Laine couldn't access this ;-)
...and I too really need this.

That link goes to DAW Plugin update to build 4.5.33 which is still in beta testing. If you can't follow the link than you will need one of the PGTeam to get you in. Will have to wait for them to come along.

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Hi JVLaine, if you would like to try the pre-release build update, then please contact us directly either over live chat or email support@pgmusic.com. We try to only have the approved beta testers have access to the pre-release builds, but if it fixes your particular issue we can send it to you directly.


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FL Studio still crashing after DAW Plugin 4.5.33 update

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Originally Posted By: JVLaine
FL Studio still crashing after DAW Plugin 4.5.33 update


DAW Plugin 4.5.33 (since 4.5.10)
Fixed: Plugin crashes in FL Studio

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Hello JVLaine,

Are you getting any error messages when FL Studio crashes? If so, what are they specially?


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Yes I'm getting a long error message, but I dont know how to get the screen shot copied onto these forum posts.

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Originally Posted By: JVLaine
Yes I'm getting a long error message, but I dont know how to get the screen shot copied onto these forum posts.

Have a look in bb/Data/Logs
You may find the Flash Messages logged there.


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THIS IS THE ERROR LOG CRASH MESSAGE FROM FL Studio:

FL Studio (20.9.2.2907) [64Bit] r27090 has encountered an error and needs to restart.

Crash log saved to C:\Users\javla\Documents\Image-Line\FL Studio\Support\Logs\Crash\ folder.

Please use Ctrl+C to copy this message and report to support.

Exception:
Access violation at address 00007FFC393F4626 in module 'Band-in-a-Box DAW VST3 Plugin.vst3'. Read of address FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Callstack:
00007FFC393A0000:00007FFC393F4626: Band-in-a-Box DAW VST3 Plugin.vst3

THIS FROM BB:

[2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.14.30]
*** This function is completed [2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.14.30]
Rendering file to disk: C:\bb\BBPlugin\SavedTracks\2022-04-30, 11-14-21\Guitar 3 - N A 619 Guitar, Resonator, Background Cowboy Ev 165.wav [2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.14.28]
Rendering file to disk: C:\bb\BBPlugin\SavedTracks\2022-04-30, 11-14-21\Guitar 2 - N A 1119 Guitar, 12-String Acoustic, Strumming Ev 120.wav [2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.14.27]
Rendering file to disk: C:\bb\BBPlugin\SavedTracks\2022-04-30, 11-14-21\Guitar 1 - N A 522 Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking Ev 120.wav [2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.14.26]
Rendering file to disk: C:\bb\BBPlugin\SavedTracks\2022-04-30, 11-14-21\Drums - RealDrums=NashvilleEven8^2-a Sidestick, HiHat , b Snare, HiHat .wav [2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.14.25]
Rendering file to disk: C:\bb\BBPlugin\SavedTracks\2022-04-30, 11-14-21\Bass - N A 519 Bass, Electric, Pop HalfNotes Ev 120.wav [2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.14.24]
[2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.12.33]
*** This function is completed [2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.12.33]
[2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.12.16]
*** This function is completed [2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.12.16]
Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.12.16]
Bootup time in milliseconds =1,770 [2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.12.16]
Time to scan unknown VST plugins = 5 ms [2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.12.15]
Time to scan known VST plugins = 4 ms [2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.12.15]
Time to scan AU plugins = 0 ms [2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.12.15]
Time to scan ALL plugins = 9 ms [2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.12.15]
Time to Count Plugins in ms =222. Plugins counted=21 [2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.12.15]
Scanning for plugins... [2022.922.0, 30.4.2022 11.12.15]
**** New Session started at : 30.4.2022 11.12.15

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Originally Posted By: JVLaine
Yes I'm getting a long error message, but I dont know how to get the screen shot copied onto these forum posts.

I've just realised I misunderstood that.

To post a screenshot you need to use "full reply", either by clicking the "Reply" or "Quote" buttons (i.e., not just using the window at the bottom of the page or by using the "Quick Reply" or "Quick Quote" buttons, of if you've started with one of those, then click the "Switch to Full Reply Screen". Once you've done that, you'll have a "File Manager" link below the text window. It's rather arcane.


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Maybe it IS a bug in the pg plug in…but i have some questions.
1. When your creating your song from scratch in bb are you inserting vst’s using bb plug in feature ? if so see if removing the vst works. Sometimes ive found some plug ins are just no good and can make a crash. I always test out any new vst plug ins in several music software daws to see if the plug in is problematic.
2. Are you using 64 bit plug ins in the bb 64 bit ?

I’m a tad confused by the info given. If further pg fixes dont work for you with fruity , but do for other fruity users i would suspect it might be an issue in how things are set up/preferences etc.
What usb sound interface are you using ?

To conclude over the years ive had various problematic vst’s sometimes that gave me probs.

Whether this is the reason in your case..i dont know. Finally some info on your pc might be useful so as to get a rounded picture of your rig/setup.
Please note running everything on one drive can sometimes be problematic eg big vstis// sample libs on the win os drive….because of disk contention.

just putting forth some ideas in case its not a pg bug
and/or bug has been addressed.

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Last edited by justanoldmuso; 04/30/22 04:36 AM.

my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
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Thank you for your post.

Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso
JV.
Maybe it IS a bug in the pg plug in…but i have some questions.
1. When your creating your song from scratch in bb are you inserting vst’s using bb plug in feature ? if so see if removing the vst works. Sometimes ive found some plug ins are just no good and can make a crash. I always test out any new vst plug ins in several music software daws to see if the plug in is problematic.

My workflow is the same as in the PG Music video for DAW Plugin in FL Studio. I.e I open the FL Studio and insert BIAB VST3 DAW Plugin in the Channel Rack. Then create the "song" basis in the DAW plugin and move the wav tracks from BIAB Plugin into the FL Studio playlist. So far so good, but after a few seconds I get the error message from FL Studio ( see above) and the FL Studio crashes.

However, if I use the BIAB Daw plugin standalone and move the wav tracks from there over to FL Studio there is no crashing. This is my workaround for the time being.

2. Are you using 64 bit plug ins in the bb 64 bit ?
Yes, everything is 64 bit.

I’m a tad confused by the info given. If further pg fixes dont work for you with fruity , but do for other fruity users i would suspect it might be an issue i how things are set up/preferences etc.
What usb sound interface are you using ?

At this point ( i.e. before the crash occurs ) I am not yet using any interface. Everything is done inside FL Studio.

To conclude over the years ive had various problematic vst’s sometimes that gave me probs.

Whether this is the reason in your case..i dont know. Finally some info on your pc might be useful so as to get a rounded picture of your rig/setup.

I have a Lenovo Legion Y540-15IRH, Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz, 16 GB RAM, 500 GB Disc.

Please note running everything on one drive can sometimes be problematic eg big vstis// sample libs on the win os drive….because of disk contention.

just putting forth some ideas in case its not a pg bug
and/or bug has been addressed.

Thank you for your ideas

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Some more questions.
1. When starting a new songr in bb and arranging the chord layout/entering chords what sound device are you using to playback/test arrangement….??? Built in sound ?
2. What sound device are you using when only using fruity ?
3. Are you doing everything using the one lenovo internal drive?..ie Win OS AND programs AND music software AND vst’s on the one drive ?

I might be wrong in your case but be aware that one issue to be aware of is not to let one music software lock out another as this can be problematic.

THUS check that one music software isnt locking out the operation of another.
if you have time post pics of your fruity sound device drivers and preferenor and same for biab.

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https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
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This video goes over the steps for taking a screenshot and adding it to the forums, on a Windows computer:



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Okay great but how do you do that same thing on a Mac?


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Okay great but how do you do that same thing on a Mac?


This thread is for the plugin on Windows computers. But if you would like to see the video for adding a screenshot to the forums from a Mac computer, it is here:



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In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!

Special offers until December 31st, 2025!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows is here and it is packed with major new features! There’s a new modern look, a GUI redesign to all areas of the program including toolbars, windows, workflow and more. There’s a Multi-view layout for organizing multiple windows. A standout addition is the powerful AI-Notes feature, which uses AI neural-net technology to transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI—entire mixes or individual instruments—making it easy to study, view, and play parts from any song. And that’s just the beginning—there are over 60 new features in this exciting release.

Along with version 2026, we've released an incredible lineup of new content! There's 202 new RealTracks, brand-new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two new RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows and save up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special offer—available until December 31, 2025. Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page to explore all available upgrade options.

2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49. Browse the full contents of each package and listen to demos here.

XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!

XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!

The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!

Ready to take your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 experience to the next level? Now’s the perfect time! Expand your style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs—packed with a wide variety of genres to inspire your next musical creation.

What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?

XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!

Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!

Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.

Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!

Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!

It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!

We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!

Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:

Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!

Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!

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