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I'm a little confused here (but doesn't take much nowadays to confuse me).
I understand that BIAB comes with a demo of Coyote Forte DXi, right? And it comes with CoyoteWT as a freebie? If that's true so far, then could someone please help me understand the MIDI/Audio drivers setup?
I'd like to set it so that it uses Forte (so I can demo and decide whether I want to buy it or not) but I see two distinct places to choose a synth. At the top it says "Synth/Sound Card" and there I can indeed choose Coyote Forte DXi. But down below, below the Get Patch/Drum Kit info, there is a checkmark to use a VST/DXi synth, another checkbox to route MIDI thru to MIDI driver, and then below that a box marked VST/DXi Synth settings. In that last box, the only option I have is to choose the CoyoteWT.
So -- if I want to hear the Forte Synth as much as possible (exclusively?) how do I set things up? Any enlightenment would be vastly appreciated (right now I have the Forte in the top box, both lower ones checkmarked, and the WT in the lower box, which just doesn't seem right).
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I'm a little confused here (but doesn't take much nowadays to confuse me).
I understand that BIAB comes with a demo of Coyote Forte DXi, right? And it comes with CoyoteWT as a freebie? If that's true so far, then could someone please help me understand the MIDI/Audio drivers setup?
The Coyote Forte DXi and the CoyoteWT are 2 different animals. The WT is just the Windows player in a Coyote skin
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I'd like to set it so that it uses Forte (so I can demo and decide whether I want to buy it or not) but I see two distinct places to choose a synth. At the top it says "Synth/Sound Card" and there I can indeed choose Coyote Forte DXi. But down below, below the Get Patch/Drum Kit info, there is a checkmark to use a VST/DXi synth, another checkbox to route MIDI thru to MIDI driver, and then below that a box marked VST/DXi Synth settings. In that last box, the only option I have is to choose the CoyoteWT.
You need to first install the Coyote Forte DXi. I"m not sure where the demo is. The "Synth/Sound Card" thing is just a list that sets up patches. It's not that important as the Forte is a GM synth.
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So -- if I want to hear the Forte Synth as much as possible (exclusively?) how do I set things up? Any enlightenment would be vastly appreciated (right now I have the Forte in the top box, both lower ones checkmarked, and the WT in the lower box, which just doesn't seem right).
Once you install it when you check"Use VSTi/DXi synth a dialog will open. Use the drop down to load the Forte.
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I'd like to set it so that it uses Forte (so I can demo and decide whether I want to buy it or not) but I see two distinct places to choose a synth. At the top it says "Synth/Sound Card" and there I can indeed choose Coyote Forte DXi.
That is likely the little RH selection up top and it is where you choose the Patch Map. If you are intending to use the Coyote WT DXi, then you should choose the selection there. All it does is make sure that the instrument names you see in the BB Patch dropdown correspond to the instruments for your chosen synth. There is a long list of possible patch maps provided by default; nobody would have all of the actual software and hardware synths from that list available for actual use on any one machine, though.
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But down below, below the Get Patch/Drum Kit info, there is a checkmark to use a VST/DXi synth, another checkbox to route MIDI thru to MIDI driver, and then below that a box marked VST/DXi Synth settings. In that last box, the only option I have is to choose the CoyoteWT.
And that is where you actually invoke the synth itself.
So you ideally would want to do both.
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You need to first install the Coyote Forte DXi. I"m not sure where the demo is. The "Synth/Sound Card" thing is just a list that sets up patches. It's not that important as the Forte is a GM synth.
Once you install it when you check"Use VSTi/DXi synth a dialog will open. Use the drop down to load the Forte.
Ah -- okay. So I guess the question to ask everyone here is exactly *where* that demo is.
I thought it came with BIAB -- I bought the Ultrapak (on the hard drive) but I don't see it anywhere there. Perhaps I need to contact technical support.
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But down below, below the Get Patch/Drum Kit info, there is a checkmark to use a VST/DXi synth, another checkbox to route MIDI thru to MIDI driver, and then below that a box marked VST/DXi Synth settings. In that last box, the only option I have is to choose the CoyoteWT.
And if you see it there, it must have already installed when you installed the host program (BB).
Select it there, then it should open, hit the X at the top right to get rid of its control panel screen, then hit Okay in the MIDI selection window. It should now play when you load a BB MIDI-based song.
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Well, I see the CoyoteWT there, but not the Forte -- isn't the demo for the Forte supposed to come with BIAB?
I thought the WT was free (and sounds terrible compared to the Forte)? Am I missing something?
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Ah -- nevermind (again. Sigh). I searched the site and found the Forte demo and am downloading it now.
Eventually I'll figure this all out.
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